5'10"Mikaveli wrote:How tall are you?CDM5 wrote:I just got my SGC through today, 2 weeks after applying! Well done Wiltshire![]()
With a budget of up to £500, what is a good starter O/U for clays?
S2 and S1 shotguns
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Re: S2 and S1 shotguns
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Ok, so you probably won't need a massively long or short LOP.
Step one, find a gun that fits you locally (even if you're not going to buy it). Find it's LOP.
Use GT (or similar) to search for shotguns with the same / very similar LOP, locally and within your budget.
Visit the trader to try the gun on for size - if it suits, pay up and you're done.
£500 will buy quite a lot second hand, don't be ultra fussy on the brand. As a guy I know says: "at the end of the day, it's a pipe, a bit of wood and a spring loaded nail...".
Step one, find a gun that fits you locally (even if you're not going to buy it). Find it's LOP.
Use GT (or similar) to search for shotguns with the same / very similar LOP, locally and within your budget.
Visit the trader to try the gun on for size - if it suits, pay up and you're done.
£500 will buy quite a lot second hand, don't be ultra fussy on the brand. As a guy I know says: "at the end of the day, it's a pipe, a bit of wood and a spring loaded nail...".
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Re: S2 and S1 shotguns
I'm only 5'9" but have gorilla like arms it seems, and have added over an inch to my Baikal to get a fit I'm happy with. I'm amazed how critical the length is, get it wrong and it's quite hard to hit anything.Mikaveli wrote:Ok, so you probably won't need a massively long or short LOP.
Step one, find a gun that fits you locally (even if you're not going to buy it). Find it's LOP.
Use GT (or similar) to search for shotguns with the same / very similar LOP, locally and within your budget.
Visit the trader to try the gun on for size - if it suits, pay up and you're done.
£500 will buy quite a lot second hand, don't be ultra fussy on the brand. As a guy I know says: "at the end of the day, it's a pipe, a bit of wood and a spring loaded nail...".
I like my Baikal, it does attract some rude comments, but as I pointed out the other week, a gun costing seven times as much doesn't hit seven times as many clays.
Careful now/that sort of thing
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On a related note - any suggestions for a good starting point for taller folks? I'm 6' 5".
I know there isn't a magic answer, just wondering if there are certain makes it might make sense to try out first...
I know there isn't a magic answer, just wondering if there are certain makes it might make sense to try out first...
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I went to my local gun shop yesterday and had a look at a few, all were a bit out of budget though and he was reluctant to show me a load as I didn't have a SGC.
One that did feel right though was a 1970s skeet gun, had a light forend and generally felt good. Can't remember the model now but I'll go in there again this weekend with my SGC. What makes a skeet gun what it is? I've no idea about clay shooting.
One that did feel right though was a 1970s skeet gun, had a light forend and generally felt good. Can't remember the model now but I'll go in there again this weekend with my SGC. What makes a skeet gun what it is? I've no idea about clay shooting.
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So how have we drifted from the legality of swapping S2 to S1 parts to gun fitment of clay guns?!
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I had the same problem - I'm also 6'5".markS wrote:On a related note - any suggestions for a good starting point for taller folks? I'm 6' 5".
I know there isn't a magic answer, just wondering if there are certain makes it might make sense to try out first...
When I bought my first shotgun, the LOP was about 13 3/4" and I ended up having to have just over an inch added - costing quite a lot to have a good job done.
Trouble is, the number of guns with a LOP above 14 1/2" is pretty small by comparison, so if you're not happy with a slip on pad, you may find you end up going down that route anyway.
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It's people discussing shooting without bitching and name calling. I'm just rolling with it... :lol:techguy wrote:So how have we drifted from the legality of swapping S2 to S1 parts to gun fitment of clay guns?!
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Fair point. My bad.techguy wrote:So how have we drifted from the legality of swapping S2 to S1 parts to gun fitment of clay guns?!

Re: S2 and S1 shotguns
techguy wrote:So how have we drifted from the legality of swapping S2 to S1 parts to gun fitment of clay guns?!
As if on cue, I spoke with Firearms Licensing today. S2 spare barrel does not need to be entered on SGC. Spare barrel for S1 needs to be entered on FAC. Cannot "legally" use a spare S2 barrel on a S1 gun, but actually swapping the barrels over onto different receivers so each shotgun still has a barrel on it, no problem.....
If that makes sense...
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?
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