A shooting Pole

[ovenpaa]

Welcome to the forum

[anpol]

A small gallery of some shooting related pics.
https://strzelba.net/milpuk/
Mainly blackpowder related.

We used to organize shoots and competitions quite often in the early days of Polish "replica freedom"*. Today there is a scarce pittance of us still regularly shooting left here around Lublin. I have just come back from our range where I introduced a small gaggle of students from the local Uni to shooting (amazing how little of them interested! :-(). We shot the club kbkAK (Kalashnikovs semi-auto, old clunkers but still possible to do 97 pts at 100m in good hands - silhouette military targests), CZ-75, I took my Mosin 91/30 (1943, Izhevsk) to show them the real stuf (I'm almost down to nothing on .303), an old Polish wz. 48 5,6 mm cadet rifle (a Mosin lookalike), Margolin pistols, my Taurus 689 .357.

Of some interest to you might be shooting at the Mesko range in Skarzysko. The range is 2500 m, and still being developed. We are going there on 22 January with our Enfields to plink (no serious preparations) to metal plates at distances up to 800 m.
Some serious shooting will take place there in May (http://www.quigleymatch-europe.com/). It's still out of my ligue though - I have no time to train cos I have to work overtime to earn some ammo money :-(.

The firearms laws of this land was for a long time a result of us being overrun by the Soviets and our resistance to all those who invaded us in 1939. The last soldier who went to war in 1939 was shot dead trying to fight his way out of the trap with gun in his hand in 1963 (correct, 1963, the hunt was still on!) while being ambushed by commie security forces 30 km from where I'm sitting now. This should suffice to explain the strict gun laws of those times. The inertia of our subsequent (socialist) regimes caried it over after the "glorous revolution" of ours of 1989 (sacasm) up until 1999, 2004, 2011 years, when the law was finally normalised. The airguns were made exempt from firearms permit, the replicas of firearms made before 1850 (then before 1885 with some restrictions) were freed - they were finally exempt from the firearms permit requirement (FAC for you, there was and there is no shotgun license of any sort). The important change for the modern firearms owning was made in 2011: from then on, the police is obliged to issue the permit to thos meeting the requirements (physician, psychiatrist, psychologist checks; check agains being a convicted for ...hmm, felony(?) - intentional trespass of the law; background check conducted by the local police dept.; a practical and theoretical exam of firearms related law and use), instead of having the right to issue the permit. There are still very little people owning firearms: a little over 100 000 hunters, less than 20 000 sportsmen.

Traditionally and illogically we can own firearms divided to "purpose categories". I have a permit for 5 pieces for sports purposes, also I cen have 15 pieces for "collection purposes". Instead of having technical categories of firearms more or less lethal etc. we have "purposes".

So, on my sport ticket I have a Taurus .357, an MCM Margolin 5,6 mm, an IZh 12/70 shotgun with two places left for: rimfire firearm of up to 6 mm calibe, centrefire of up to 12 mm long or short. On my "collectors" ticket I have 1 Mosin, 1 Lee-Enfield, 1 S&W 39-2 9 mm, 1 kbks wz. 48 and counting... :-D, up to fifteen of course. Then it is up to good humour of my p. dept. to extend my permit.

Cheers

[anpol]

I think it must be the Yanks panic buying them by the case, ah well.
The Vodka and shooting sounds good :)

It doesn't look good though, the groups tighten up and the doubious fun with anti-doping testings (nurses with needles on spike heels!) begins, as I hear ;-).

[20series]

Hi and welcome to the forum, it sounds like you have a fine collection of toys :goodjob:

As for .303 loads, you will find that 40-41 grains of Vitavouri N140 is a standard load, you may have to find an equivalent depending on what powders you have access too.

Alan

[anpol]

Hi and welcome to the forum, it sounds like you have a fine collection of toys :goodjob:

As for .303 loads, you will find that 40-41 grains of Vitavouri N140 is a standard load, you may have to find an equivalent depending on what powders you have access too.

Alan

From reading your fine forum I already know that :-). The problem is, the Vihtavouri powders are not readily available over here. I have acquired by some quirk of my mind an ammount of Czech Lovex D 073.4 powder, but it transpired that they don't stock locally any 180 gn bullets (as stuck into the S&B factory made 303 ammo), only 150 gn and 180 gn are listed in the Lovex powder loading data - so being a newbie, hating doing that, I will need to find my load for for Sierra or PrviP 174 gn. bullets I already have, a right load of Lovex because it's not listed for 174 gn. No problem, once I get my chrono, starting from 180 gn bullet data, I'll be on the safe side, but I'd rather concentrate on shooting my beloved No. 4 instead of making and testing ammo for it!
BTW, IMR 4064, Varget and some other powders with loading data for numerous bullets are obtainable here, it's just my propensity of finding the most winding way... ;-).

Oh, the first ever "Mad minute" performed in Poland last year was videorecorded (100 m only, but no previous practie ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYvRkX_LSiU

[Mattnall]

Hello and welcome

[froggy]

Dzien dobry Andrzej !!

Sounds like you'r having fun in Poland
Which part have you invaded ?

[polemass]

Witaj Andrzej!
Greetings from UK-how far away are you from Chelm?
And can I reserve one Mossin Nagant M44 for myself pls?
200£ is ok here but FAC first for me-hope soon... :cool2:

[anpol]

Dzien dobry Andrzej !!

Sounds like you'r having fun in Poland
Which part have you invaded ?

Well, I've been occupying the same spot for a long time, not even thinking about invading anything, just the usuall trip sequence home-work-the range-work-home ;-).

[anpol]

Witaj Andrzej!
Greetings from UK-how far away are you from Chelm?

Hi! An hour drive from Chelm, in Lublin. Been to the Chelm shooting range last October.

And can I reserve one Mossin Nagant M44 for myself pls?
200£ is ok here but FAC first for me-hope soon... :cool2:

Ooops, the wrong model, mate :-(. M44, a Polish made one, is something I would like to grab for myself, if you excuse. The next one will be on hold for you :-), just fournish yourself one of our FAC's and ou are sorted ;-).

Bugger, the place where I bought my 91/30 have them now for 600 zl (a tad over 100UKP)! It seems like the Great American Stampede is a thing of the past.

Cheers