Long range .22lr shooting at Bisley

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Re: Long range .22lr shooting at Bisley

#41 Post by morph007 »

Hello all,

I've just noticed this on the NRA website, I'm in, anybody else?

http://www.nra.org.uk/common/asp/Calend ... RA&id=3372

The Smallbore Long Range Match (National Shooting Centre (NSC), Bisley)

Date: 27 April

A Long Range .22rf event.

DISTANCES - 100, 200, 300, 400 and 500 yards. The match will include an aggregate of 100, 200 and 300 yds, with options to shoot at 400 and 500 yds.

NUMBER OF SHOTS - Blow-off shots at 100yds and first detail after lunch only (see below), up to three practice shots, two convertible sighting shots and ten to count at each distance.

BLOW-OFF SHOTS - A period of one minute during which blow-off (warming) shots may be fired at the stop butt will be allowed before shooting for score commences.

TARGETS & MARKING - NRA Target Rifle targets. Paid markers will be provided.

RIFLES - Any single shot bolt-action or Martini-action rifle chambered for .22 Rimfire ammunition may be used. "Iron", magnifying or telescopic sights may be fitted.

AMMUNITION - Competitors are to supply their own ammunition.

FIRING POSITION - Prone or supine.

Further details and classes will be included in the Entry Form - available shortly.
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Re: Long range .22lr shooting at Bisley

#42 Post by Dougan »

Yep, definitely in!

I'm glad to see the NRA have taken this on - Not that Richard didn't make a great job of organising the previous events (and deserves full credit for revitalising interest in this discipline), but because it could make it even more popular...

Interesting to see they are doing the full range of distances from 100 to 500 - I'm going to have to re-think my strategy - Currently I have one set of mounts that I use for 50m Mini-McQueen (as they don't obscure the breach), but there isn't enough elevation on the scope to get to 300 with those mounts, so I got a slanted mount for long-range...the only problem with that though, is that I have to have the cross-hairs wound all the way down on a 200 zero, to allow elevation to 400...which means I can't wind it down to 100...

...I was thinking about getting a better scope for this discipline anyway; and am wondering whether two different set-ups would be practicle...so that I could have one scope and mounts set up for 50 to 200, and then swap to a different scope and mounts (would only take a few minutes) for 300+...
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#43 Post by Iain »

Morning Everybody

I've been looking at long range rimfire for a while now and am very keen to give it a go, but have found it difficult to get any real info on it (I only stumbled on this site and thread by accident) so perhaps some of you more knowledgable guys could help me out here?

What seems to be the rifle of choice for long range work?
Can anyone recommend a sensible scope/mount set-up (without selling the kids into slavery)?
How is the front of the rifle supported; sling as per .22 prone, supported on a bag, bipod, etc?
Is the butt in the shoulder or off a bag like bench rest?

Sorry if these questions seem a bit kukkuk , but as I said, info like this is a bit on the scarce side.

Look forward to finding out more

Iain
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#44 Post by rox »

Did you see the links in the earlier post in this thread? They include match conditions, so that should have info about rests etc. A number of forum members have taken part, so I'm sure they will be able to give you more detailed first-hand information in due course.

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#45 Post by Iain »

Hi Rox

Read through them but maybe missed a couple of bits........I'll read through them again.

Many thanks

Iain
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#46 Post by Sim G »

No lever guns or semi's..... Wonder why?
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?

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Re: Long range .22lr shooting at Bisley

#47 Post by kennyc »

Sim G wrote:No lever guns or semi's..... Wonder why?
target rifle mentality? not sure how to clear them after use? who knows? maybe no one thought of them?
Dougan

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#48 Post by Dougan »

Iain wrote:Morning Everybody

I've been looking at long range rimfire for a while now and am very keen to give it a go, but have found it difficult to get any real info on it (I only stumbled on this site and thread by accident) so perhaps some of you more knowledgable guys could help me out here?

What seems to be the rifle of choice for long range work?
Can anyone recommend a sensible scope/mount set-up (without selling the kids into slavery)?
How is the front of the rifle supported; sling as per .22 prone, supported on a bag, bipod, etc?
Is the butt in the shoulder or off a bag like bench rest?

Sorry if these questions seem a bit kukkuk , but as I said, info like this is a bit on the scarce side.

Look forward to finding out more

Iain
Rifle of choice is up to you, as long as it's single shot - If you want to be competitive, the better scores have been coming from Anschutz and BSA target rifles...interestingly the age of the rifle doesn't seem to matter too much, as the 30 year old target rifles are shooting as well as the brand new ones.

The 'Long range' rules say that the rifle has to be supported by the hand, but that the hand can be rested; which means you can use a sling (like prone TR) or put your supporting hand on a rest - various rests can be used...bags, padded blocks, car-jacks etc. - But no rear bag or bi-pods.

You can use any sights - Personally I use a scope, and think it's an advantage (can aim off quicker and more precisely) - I'd recommend a high magnification scope with 'target turrets'... I could do with a better scope (with more elevation adjustment), but a second hand Besonder for £90 has been OK so far.

I found the mounts a problem (though this is my first proper play with scopes), in that I couldn't get enough elevation for 300 yards plus - you really need to zero the scope with the cross hair as low as it will go...in the end I got a tilting mount from Henry Kranks - it was a bugger to zero, as every time you adjust the elevation on the mount you lose the windage zero...but once set up it's been reasonably effective.

There's more info at the links on this thread, but feel free to ask any more question you like...
Dougan

Re: Long range .22lr shooting at Bisley

#49 Post by Dougan »

kennyc wrote:
Sim G wrote:No lever guns or semi's..... Wonder why?
target rifle mentality? not sure how to clear them after use? who knows? maybe no one thought of them?
It's more a match rifle mentality; or a scaled down version anyway, and I don't see a problem with that...it's the discipline that it is...

...It's also very flexible in other ways - you can use any single shot rifle including classics, any sights, and various techniques (including bench rest if you can't shoot prone), so accommodates a lot of shooters.

There are three good meetings a year at Bisley predominantly for lever action and semi-autos...what's wrong with having other disciplines?

And Sim G; while shooting can be very exciting...'semi's' are never appropriate razz
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#50 Post by Sim G »

Dougan wrote: And Sim G; while shooting can be very exciting...'semi's' are never appropriate razz

Mmmmm..... kukkuk
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?

Guns dont kill people. Dads with pretty Daughters do...!
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