Mountain trip

[rufrdr]

Excellent rufrdr, as usual you have posted pictures of an excellent landscape and interesting history. Thank you.

I knew about the Manzanar and the Japanese American Internment Camps, a knee jerk reaction from the American Government at the time to say the least.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzanar

Your binoculars, are they Steiner?

Yes, a gift many years ago from the wife. Superior optics.

Read the book "The Train to Crystal City" to learn about another camp in Texas that housed German, Italian, and Japanese families some kidnapped from Latin America by the U.S. and later sent to Germany and Japan in prisoner exchanges. It didn't turn out well for those sent to live in the war zone.

[rufrdr]

Stunning pictures as ever, what was the temperature on the day of your visit?

When the sun came up it was in the mid 40s, by mid day about 70. Overnight it dropped to the high 30s. The valley floor is around 4,000 ft so it cools off quickly at night. At Cerro Gordo it was considerably higher and cooler.

[rufrdr]

Thanks again rfrdr, great photos.

This years Vacation is USA for the sixth time, Las Vegas a few days then 10 Days Anaheim CA and back to Las Vegas to fly home in order to get direct flight to Glasgow. Going in October to avoid heat though.

The drive along the I15 is quite enjoyable, wont be doing any adventure stuff like you do though.

Family will want to do Disney/Universal etc. Again. I've seen them, still, musn't complain, will have to plan some other exciting stuff, lots to see. Any recommendations?

Depends on where your interests are. 10 days in Southern California can get you to a heck of a lot of interesting places. Give me some guidelines such as historical, military, cultural, nature....if you are willing to spend some time driving you can see enough to fry your brain.

I've lived here 27 years and I'm still encountering new things and new sights. For example if you or your family are movie fans there are multiple locations that were the spots where famous films were shot



The Bradbury building as seen in "Blade Runner" with Harrison Ford



Here it is in real life from a couple weeks ago

Museums abound from world class auto and aviation (Petersen and Planes of Fame) to art (Ghetty and MOCA). So much to see.

The battleship Iowa is tied up at San Pedro and the Queen Mary is across the bay. Ft. MacArthur has coast artillery emplacements that can be toured, also located in San Pedro

You can take a jet ferry across the channel to Avalon and Catalina Island and be like the guy in the song:

Twenty- six miles across the sea
Santa Catalina is a-waitin' for me
Santa Catalina, the island of romance, romance, romance, romance

Water all around it everywhere
Tropical trees and the salty air
But for me the thing that's a-waitin' there-romance

If it were me I wouldn't spend 10 days going to amusement parks. But if your family wants to go to 6 Flags Magic Mountain amusement park, take them there and ditch them and if you buy the ammo I'll let you shoot some of my arsenal at the range that I belong to.

[25Pdr]

Thanks for all that rfrdr, the Six Flags looks good. My Wife will want to do shopping, my Daughter will want to do the Hollywood Stars spotting and Granddaughter the shows, I may get some say in the choice of venues, never mind. razz

I've never found the time for any shooting stateside a few friends recently went to shoot MGs but as a reloader the thought of hundreds of dollars for a few second burst of a Bren/M60 etc is a No No.

But never mind I have shot Machine Guns at the UK Government expense though.

Cheers again.

[rufrdr]

Thanks for all that rfrdr, the Six Flags looks good. My Wife will want to do shopping, my Daughter will want to do the Hollywood Stars spotting and Granddaughter the shows, I may get some say in the choice of venues, never mind. razz

I've never found the time for any shooting stateside a few friends recently went to shoot MGs but as a reloader the thought of hundreds of dollars for a few second burst of a Bren/M60 etc is a No No.

But never mind I have shot Machine Guns at the UK Government expense though.

Cheers again.

Having the government pay for your full auto fun is the best! I especially liked it when they paid for the stuff that went BOOM when the projectiles landed.

[25Pdr]

Yes! Especially the 25Pdr in the Anti Tank Roll...

Firing a solid 20Lb Tungsten shell ahead of around four pounds of Cordite was a memorable experience. Seen a Officer get blown off his feet when he ventured ahead of the Gun Shield.

We fired at cardboard tanks though, Britain was too poor to provide real ones.

[rufrdr]

Yes! Especially the 25Pdr in the Anti Tank Roll...

Firing a solid 20Lb Tungsten shell ahead of around four pounds of Cordite was a memorable experience. Seen a Officer get blown off his feet when he ventured ahead of the Gun Shield.

We fired at cardboard tanks though, Britain was too poor to provide real ones.

That is pretty cool! I got to do it with the M102 light weight 105mm howitzer with HEAT rounds. The range had derelict 2 1/2 ton cargo trucks on it. Each crew of officer cadets (I was one of them) got a whopping two rounds to try. The NCO instructors were in competition with each other to see whose cadets could shoot better. I didn't lay the gun, just shoved the shell in the breech and tried not to lose any fingers doing so. We hit one hulk, it was cool seeing the base trace floating out and then hitting the scrapped truck.

We fired a lot more rounds of HE in indirect and direct fire. It was raining hard and when we had a cease fire we put the plastic plug in the muzzle to keep the rain water out. When we were given the ok to commence fire we forgot to take the plug out before shooting. Never found a trace of it.

[Christel]

Excellent rufrdr, as usual you have posted pictures of an excellent landscape and interesting history. Thank you.

I knew about the Manzanar and the Japanese American Internment Camps, a knee jerk reaction from the American Government at the time to say the least.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzanar

Your binoculars, are they Steiner?

Yes, a gift many years ago from the wife. Superior optics.

Read the book "The Train to Crystal City" to learn about another camp in Texas that housed German, Italian, and Japanese families some kidnapped from Latin America by the U.S. and later sent to Germany and Japan in prisoner exchanges. It didn't turn out well for those sent to live in the war zone.

I'll check the book out, thank you.

Steiner, Ovenpaa has a pair here, they look identical to yours, they are really good and a very distinctive design.
We also have a pocket version and despite being new are also very good.

[snayperskaya]

Yes! Especially the 25Pdr in the Anti Tank Roll...

Firing a solid 20Lb Tungsten shell ahead of around four pounds of Cordite was a memorable experience. Seen a Officer get blown off his feet when he ventured ahead of the Gun Shield.

We fired at cardboard tanks though, Britain was too poor to provide real ones.

I think my late father used to shoot those when he did his national service in the Royal Artillery in Germany.I think he also trained on the 40mm Bofors at Tonfanau in Mid Wales

[rufrdr]

Excellent rufrdr, as usual you have posted pictures of an excellent landscape and interesting history. Thank you.

I knew about the Manzanar and the Japanese American Internment Camps, a knee jerk reaction from the American Government at the time to say the least.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzanar

Your binoculars, are they Steiner?

Yes, a gift many years ago from the wife. Superior optics.

Read the book "The Train to Crystal City" to learn about another camp in Texas that housed German, Italian, and Japanese families some kidnapped from Latin America by the U.S. and later sent to Germany and Japan in prisoner exchanges. It didn't turn out well for those sent to live in the war zone.

I'll check the book out, thank you.

Steiner, Ovenpaa has a pair here, they look identical to yours, they are really good and a very distinctive design.
We also have a pocket version and despite being new are also very good.

I was introduced to them as an issue item in the Army. Anything that can stand up to soldier abuse has to be good. As a Warrant Officer once told me "You can lock a soldier in a rubber lined cell with two ball bearings; he'll lose one and break the other!"