Section 58(2) V Section 7.1
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Re: Section 58(2) V Section 7.1
the safest thing is not putting yourself in the situation in the first place. I know people with 7.1 who collect ammo as well. They dont have anything live that can remotely be considered to fit any of their 7.1 firearms. That way no jobsworth can prove a point.
Re: Section 58(2) V Section 7.1
Never a truer word said! Here's a theoretical question - if for instance I had a Webley .455 on section 7.1 which I am considering, do I have to make sure I get rid of any old .455 brass I might have collected? I don't have any, but how cautious do you need to be?
The law gravitates around the word "reasonable," but what's the definition of reasonable in this instance? Perhaps having something in writing from my FEO is the way forward.
The law gravitates around the word "reasonable," but what's the definition of reasonable in this instance? Perhaps having something in writing from my FEO is the way forward.
AL8 wrote:the safest thing is not putting yourself in the situation in the first place. I know people with 7.1 who collect ammo as well. They dont have anything live that can remotely be considered to fit any of their 7.1 firearms. That way no jobsworth can prove a point.
Re: Section 58(2) V Section 7.1
Personally, if you're going to collect s7.1, then why not s58? At least no one knows you have s58. You can take it to a friend to show them and you can even have them posted to you! Some s58 you can even put on FAC and shoot.
S7.1 and s7.3 for that matter, are treated far too much like WMD for me to be even bothered with the concept....
S7.1 and s7.3 for that matter, are treated far too much like WMD for me to be even bothered with the concept....
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?
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Re: Section 58(2) V Section 7.1
There have been a LOT of .44 Russians bought as people realise that if need be .44 Spl and .44 mag cases can be altered to fit. The Home Office are thinking about how long .44 Russian can remain Sec58. Also there are very few GOOD .44 Russians on the market at reasonable prices anymore.
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I'm not after the easiest way, just the right way of doing it. Also as Iain points out, you can't hold a Webley .455 revolver on S58 only on S7.1, so if that's what I want, then my hands are tied.
I'm interested in 7.3 as well, but it depends how complicated the process is. Actually I've failed at the first hurdle anyway as I can't even find an application form...
I'm interested in 7.3 as well, but it depends how complicated the process is. Actually I've failed at the first hurdle anyway as I can't even find an application form...
Sim G wrote:Personally, if you're going to collect s7.1, then why not s58? At least no one knows you have s58. You can take it to a friend to show them and you can even have them posted to you! Some s58 you can even put on FAC and shoot.
S7.1 and s7.3 for that matter, are treated far too much like WMD for me to be even bothered with the concept....
Re: Section 58(2) V Section 7.1
That was my impression as well, the prices hint there's a fair bit of demand for .44 Russian. I think you're right, it's one calibre that will be removed from S58(2).
Robert303 wrote:There have been a LOT of .44 Russians bought as people realise that if need be .44 Spl and .44 mag cases can be altered to fit. The Home Office are thinking about how long .44 Russian can remain Sec58. Also there are very few GOOD .44 Russians on the market at reasonable prices anymore.
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Re: Section 58(2) V Section 7.1
for me, 7.1 holds little appeal, i'd rather have it on 7.3 so i can actually shoot itHALODIN wrote:I'm not after the easiest way, just the right way of doing it. Also as Iain points out, you can't hold a Webley .455 revolver on S58 only on S7.1, so if that's what I want, then my hands are tied.
I'm interested in 7.3 as well, but it depends how complicated the process is. Actually I've failed at the first hurdle anyway as I can't even find an application form...
an application form for what?
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Re: Section 58(2) V Section 7.1
If you want to go down the route of Sec 7.3 I would advise you to 1) Join the HBSA and 2) To talk to those in the HBSA that STUDY their Sec 7.3 pistols. You cannot get Sec 7.3 and think it's like the old days, competition is NOT allowed and at one point the amount of ammo you were allowed to hold was miniscule ie 5 rounds .45acp was what Strathclyde allowed one member. There are a limited number of sites around the country that are authorised Sec 7.3 Heritage sites.
https://sites.google.com/site/hbsauk/
Should provide all the info you need. I belong to Tameside Shooting Sports Association Ltd which is the Heritage site in Manchester. PM me if you want more info.
https://sites.google.com/site/hbsauk/
Should provide all the info you need. I belong to Tameside Shooting Sports Association Ltd which is the Heritage site in Manchester. PM me if you want more info.
Re: Section 58(2) V Section 7.1
A 7.1 application form.
bradaz11 wrote:an application form for what?
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Thanks for the info and the offer. Touch wood, I "should" still be on the waiting list for the Leicester heritage club, but it's been a while now... I'll call him.
What's the maximum ammo allowance you're aware of?
What's the maximum ammo allowance you're aware of?
Robert303 wrote:If you want to go down the route of Sec 7.3 I would advise you to 1) Join the HBSA and 2) To talk to those in the HBSA that STUDY their Sec 7.3 pistols. You cannot get Sec 7.3 and think it's like the old days, competition is NOT allowed and at one point the amount of ammo you were allowed to hold was miniscule ie 5 rounds .45acp was what Strathclyde allowed one member. There are a limited number of sites around the country that are authorised Sec 7.3 Heritage sites.
https://sites.google.com/site/hbsauk/
Should provide all the info you need. I belong to Tameside Shooting Sports Association Ltd which is the Heritage site in Manchester. PM me if you want more info.
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