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#11 Post by bnz41 »

That was using reloads (not mine)..... :bad:

Should never use another persons reloads as you do not know how they have been put together or if powder has been mixed over/ under charged these can cause major rifle failures.
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#12 Post by ArcofZen »

bnz41 wrote:That was using reloads (not mine)..... :bad:

Should never use another persons reloads as you do not know how they have been put together or if powder has been mixed over/ under charged these can cause major rifle failures.
You're right, unfortunately that's all the shop had at the time so I felt like I had no choice. Lesson learned...
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#13 Post by bradaz11 »

bnz41 wrote:That was using reloads (not mine)..... :bad:

Should never use another persons reloads as you do not know how they have been put together or if powder has been mixed over/ under charged these can cause major rifle failures.
If it was at the tunnel. They produce and sell their own ammo
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#14 Post by Alpha1 »

bnz41 wrote:

That was using reloads (not mine)..... :bad:

Should never use another persons reloads as you do not know how they have been put together or if powder has been mixed over/ under charged these can cause major rifle failures.


You're right, unfortunately that's all the shop had at the time so I felt like I had no choice. Lesson learned...

You bought re loads from a shop. I assume you mean a registered firearms dealer. They want closing down if you bought that ammo from a dealer. The only reloaded AMMO you should ever shoot is ammo you reloaded your self.

Reading this thread the bit about case head separation caught my attention is that a No5 thing I have fired thousands of rounds through .303 variants over the years and never had a case head separation.

I have some .303 stripper clips some were I'm sure Ill rummage through the boxes and see what I have got.
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#15 Post by redcat »

I was under the impression that it was illegal to sell home loaded ammunition.

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#16 Post by TattooedGun »

redcat wrote:I was under the impression that it was illegal to sell home loaded ammunition.

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Not really, but they have to go through specific proof testing procedures in order to sell it.
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#17 Post by ArcofZen »

I should point out that since they had no 'new' .303 the box of reloads was gifted to me, I did not pay for them. I also don't believe they were reloaded by the tunnel themselves before anyone jumps to any wrong conclusions.

Bottom line is that I learned a lesson, and no harm came of it. If anything its a good to mention these things so that others might learn from it.
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#18 Post by WelshShooter »

Alpha1 wrote: Reading this thread the bit about case head separation caught my attention is that a No5 thing I have fired thousands of rounds through .303 variants over the years and never had a case head separation.
Typically, it's an issue with rimmed cartridges but is more of a problem with the Lee Enfield. Regular, rimless cases (e.g. .308win) will headspace off the case shoulder whereas rimmed cartridges headspace of the rim. The main problem you have with this is that rim thickness is not consistent between different cases, therefore the gap between the bolt face and barrel (called head clearance) needs to be large enough to accept all rim thicknesses. However, there's a downside to this. When you chamber a round the rim is tight up against the barrel, and when you fire the round the pressure generated will cause the case to move backward against the bolt face and you also have the case shoulder bumping forward to mirror the chamber. Therefore, the brass expands in two directions which makes the case even thinner at one location, which is where case-head separation occurs, near the bottom of the case body.

See the link below, it shows pictures which explain it a lot better.

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#19 Post by Alpha1 »

Yes I understand that. But I have fired thousands of .303 rounds and never had a case head seperation.
So is the problem because its a no5.
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#20 Post by MrD »

It's a potential problem for all rifles using the .303 British, for the reasons WelshShooter said. All the ones I have seen were mainly due to cases which had been reloaded too often. For the majority of folk, it will never be an issue - but, when it happens just hope you or a friend has invested the £15 in a clearing plug fingerscrossed
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