Ammo cost & supply in the UK ?

[ovenpaa]

None at all, and within reason no limit on primers as long as you do not exceed the 5kg limit or you have a certificate to hold more.

[Blackstuff]

I always thought France had that crazy no 'military' calibres for civilians rule? :?:

[Tower75]

I always thought France had that crazy no 'military' calibres for civilians rule? :?:

I *think* they do. I think all "military" calibres are redesigned and called something else, like a redesigned .303 would be called .303Z and is made 2mm wider so it wont chamber into a true .303 rifle.

I'd be interested to know. I'm sure froggy can answer it. Is a .223R a "redesigned" round?

[ovenpaa]

I thought in France military chambered rifles could be owned but the licensing was more involved. it will be interesting to read what they really do in France.

Has anyone noticed how people on American shooting forums often assume pistols and Semi Autos are illegal in the UK? At first glance our gun laws are incredibly restrictive but if you look closer there are all sorts of ways to have fun with a gun.

[Steve]

but if you look closer there are all sorts of ways to have fun with a gun.

Just where do you start..?

[Steve]

I always thought France had that crazy no 'military' calibres for civilians rule? :?:

I *think* they do. I think all "military" calibres are redesigned and called something else, like a redesigned .303 would be called .303Z and is made 2mm wider so it wont chamber into a true .303 rifle.

I'd be interested to know. I'm sure froggy can answer it. Is a .223R a "redesigned" round?

Never knew that.I suppose some countries have peculiar laws and this is obviously the French way! :lol:

[froggy]

Re-

I always thought France had that crazy no 'military' calibres for civilians rule?

This is not completly correct.

in France military chambered rifles could be owned but the licensing was more involved.
In a nut-shell in France, as the law currently stands, a licenced shooter can own, subject to the equivalent of a FAC, renew-able every 3 years, 12 restricted fire-arms (section 1 and 4) with the following break-down of 5 central percusion + 7 rimfire and illimited non-restricted firearm (section 5 and 7) with no need to re-new.

Section 1 : military caliber fire-arms
Section 4 : sporting caliber fire-arms,

Section 5 : hunting caliber fire-arms, (manual action or semi-auto but with fixed mag)
Section 7 : 22lr manual repetition rifle,

As far as ammo is concerned,
Section 1 1,000/year ticket that can be re-applied as many times as you want and as many time admin processing will take.
Section 4, 5 & 7 no quantity limitation .

So we end up with funny situation where
a Mauser K98 in original 7.92x57 (8x57) caliber is Section 1, so I need a FAC, it goes against my 7 max quota and I am limited to 1,000 rounds
but
if I own exactly the same rifle rechambered in 8x64s or in 8x60s it becomes a section 5 and I then only need to show my sport shooter licence, tell the Gendarmerie and I can own as many as I want, same goes to the ammo.

Same story for a Lee-Enfield in original 303 which is section 1 and the rechamber 303S caliber which is section 5...

In France you can find some G43 with welded mag restricted to 3 rounds and rechamber in a "hunting caliber" so it can become a section 5 owned by a hunting-licence holder with no time restriction.
etc ... etc ...

you can find more info in english on http://www.eurotir22.com/info

[Doz]

It makes our law look simple! :lol:

[ovenpaa]

Well that has made things slightly clearer. What would be a good example of Section a 5 semi-auto firearm and cartridge?

[Steve]

It makes our law look simple! :lol:

Thats what i thought!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: