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I feel all deflated now, I was really excited for an hour or so... :lol:

I think you're right, I've e-mailed him and said I will pop up and take a look when they arrive in a month or so and I can make my final decision then, but I suspect I'll buy something else first.

Tower.75 wrote:

I suppose the real question is, is it one helluva rifle?

In my humble opinion, no.

At the end of the day, all it is, is a magazine-fed, manual-repeating rifle. It looks tacticool and sexy, but I personally do not believe it is worth that. Or, should I say, I personally wouldn't pay that amount for it.

But, as I say, if it's what you want, get it. It's your cash.

I know I've already added my two pence, twice. So... this'll be 6p now, I guess.

As others have said, ask yourself what type of shooting you're going to be doing. If it's gallery shooting, where you're in a fire-trench, or lying prone and taking slow, deliberate shots and trying to hit the V bull with every shot, do you really need a rifle that's configured to mimic military CQC rifles?

Make sure you're not just buying it so you have an "assault rifle" that's black and sexy.

It is your first rifle, so my opining, for what it's worth, is to get a more "traditional" rifle, and cut your gums on that. Save yourself some money, too. You do not need to spend that amount. Hell, even if you want to buy "brand new", a Remington 700 will be a third of the price.

When I was starting out, I wanted a Martini-Henry as my first rifle, or a Mauser M71. You get caught up in the excitement of "guns!" and start looking at all sorts.

Just target shooting, but I'm really interested in going out past the 100 yard mark. Looks like fun to me.

judders wrote:I'd have to agree with Tower.75, I don't think it's worth that much.

What type of shooting are you intending to use it for?

Hi Dave,

OK... I concede I got caught up in the moment, it is preeety and that's surely part of the fun, but I think I'm coming around to the idea as my first rifle it's probably not the wisest choice. I have to admit though it does pain me to say that, it looks so nice...

I think I'll have a good look round the gun show and see what catches my eye.

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Cheers,

Craig.

Dave 101 wrote:Hi
The same old question what do you intend to use it for ?
If you are after a 7.62 whats the point of a little torch a small scope and a collapsable stock its not as though your going to be doing CQB . It all looks very preeety , but is it worth it . 7.62 is a 600 yd plus rifle personaly I would look at something more apt for that calibre / range .
If that was in .22 semi auto then it would be a fun rifle . Time to shop around a bit more and spend some time on the range and ask a few questions to the guys in the club .

Dave

Yes I could have one of these and a remington 700 as well. It kind of puts it in to perspective doesn't it... I've looked at the lannertactical.com site before, but might need to take another look...

Thanks.

UKYankee wrote:My twopence worth would be, get a .223 / 556 if you want tacticool and go for a more 'traditional' 7.62 rifle. The Lantac below starts at £1560 quid which would leave almost £2000 for a fantastic and very accurate 7.62. Won't say I'm not biased as this is what I'm doing and my Lantac arrives in about 6-8 weeks :shakeshout:

Guilty... :lol:

Don't worry I like talking about my new hobby so don't feel like you've said too much, keep going!

To be honest yes I do want to be able to sink a bullet in to a target at all distances perfectly, but I also generally like guns. I've had lots of deactivated guns in the house over the last 10 years (Lewis gun, MG34, MG42, Bremmer .22 AR-15, Bren, Luger) and now I'm only left with a few Brocock and AK74M c02 rifles and you can't ignore aesthetics or the history of a rifle, it's not just about the perfect shot IMO. Some guns I just want to have a look at, admire their engineering, history and enjoy the smell of gun oil. Maybe if I'm going to spend a lot on something `special` perhaps I should get an FG42 or an MP38 instead.... Unfortunately I got carried away with guns a long time ago... Maybe 30 years ago!

http://www.ssd-weapon.com/web_en/produkte_en.htm

I take your point though, I do need to cut my gums and TBH the one rifle I would love to shoot and haven't yet, is an Enfield .303, maybe this should be my first, or perhaps a Kar98. I'll get a history lesson for free as well.

Thanks for the advice!

Tower.75 wrote:I know I've already added my two pence, twice. So... this'll be 6p now, I guess.

As others have said, ask yourself what type of shooting you're going to be doing. If it's gallery shooting, where you're in a fire-trench, or lying prone and taking slow, deliberate shots and trying to hit the V bull with every shot, do you really need a rifle that's configured to mimic military CQC rifles?

Make sure you're not just buying it so you have an "assault rifle" that's black and sexy.

It is your first rifle, so my opining, for what it's worth, is to get a more "traditional" rifle, and cut your gums on that. Save yourself some money, too. You do not need to spend that amount. Hell, even if you want to buy "brand new", a Remington 700 will be a third of the price.

When I was starting out, I wanted a Martini-Henry as my first rifle, or a Mauser M71. You get caught up in the excitement of "guns!" and start looking at all sorts.

That didn't work... as now I want this with a £1,200 Elcan Specter 1-4X main optic... Too many toys, not enough money, self control or time... :lol:

UKYankee wrote:My twopence worth would be, get a .223 / 556 if you want tacticool and go for a more 'traditional' 7.62 rifle. The Lantac below starts at £1560 quid which would leave almost £2000 for a fantastic and very accurate 7.62. Won't say I'm not biased as this is what I'm doing and my Lantac arrives in about 6-8 weeks :shakeshout:

Very nice looking guns, I almost spat my T out when I saw the price though. I downloaded the Brownells catalogue the other day and If you really want the tactical look you can get an AR style stock, rails etc for the Remington 700

That sounds horrific...

What page was this on, I'm just looking at the catalogue now.

Primer wrote:Very nice looking guns, I almost spat my T out when I saw the price though. I downloaded the Brownells catalogue the other day and If you really want the tactical look you can get an AR style stock, rails etc for the Remington 700

Can I be terribly boring?

For the sort of money you are sporting, both MikMak (Dolphin guns) and John Carmichael (HPS Ltd) and quite likely a few others will do you a really pretty, built for purpose F-TR rifle in .308Win that will hit a 5" circle at 1000 yards a lot more often than you can.

Now it won't look like a piece of military kit, but it will look like what it is - a rifle that you can learn with and keep learning with all the way to being World Champion, if you have the talent and the dedication.

Now, of course, our resident European Champion or our resident Palma team hopeful might have something to say about the relationship between the state of your kit and the state of your mind when it comes to the extremes of performance.

Iain
Past Captain of Great Britain
And thus an ex-pert in the classic definition!