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Re: Need a good mid priced scope

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:59 pm
by Gun Pimp
phaedra1106 wrote:Which Fox scope?, I've seen reference to the 8-32 but there's not one listed. There's a 10-40X50 or a 8-34X56 Hakko but of course no prices listed for anything on the site (major annoyance!!!) :)

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I've got Fox's latest Chinese 8 -32 with me now for a review. For £110 it's an amazing scope. Might be worth ringing him if you want one.

Re: Need a good mid priced scope

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:53 am
by User702
Thanks for the advice! I'd not considered the Sightron ones, nor the Fox scopes, but I'll certainly be looking into them now.

I'm wondering if it's worth putting together a beginner kit list for target rifle shooting or something to prevent this type of question being asked again. Something like a cheap, medium and expensive/dream list of kit for shooting broken down by rifle, scope and ammunition or something.

Re: Need a good mid priced scope

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 11:58 am
by Laurie
I'm wondering if it's worth putting together a beginner kit list for target rifle shooting or something to prevent this type of question being asked again. Something like a cheap, medium and expensive/dream list of kit for shooting broken down by rifle, scope and ammunition or something. [User 702]

Look no further, just go to:

http://www.targetshooter.co.uk/

and trawl through the older issues. I've been covering that very thing as a series called "An affordable F/TR Rifle"

Three secondhand rifles are being prepared for the club shooter to cover 200-1,000 yards, and done on a budget.

Rifle #1 Savage 12 Long Range Precision Varmint sporter. Was 204 Ruger, rebarrelled to .223 Rem with a 26" 1-7.5" twist barrel (to handle 90s), Fox 8-32X50 @£105, Versa-Pod tactical folding bi-pod. 2nd to 5th F/TR places in Diggle 300/500/600 yard matches including competition from several national squad members and their long-range 308s. Best for up to 600 yards, but actually 1K-capable, and certainly competitive to 800.

Rifle #2 .308W Howa 1500 Varminter bought s/h at an excllent price with 20-MOA taper rail and 30mm mounts from the classifieds in another UK shooting forum. 22-inch barrel is the limiting factor but shoots very well. Another Fox 8-32X50 fitted and the Versa-Pod switched between it and the Savage. Total cost ~£750 on the range. Will be used in PSSA club matches at Diggle in due course. I have a 30-inch Bartlein 1-13" Palma profile barrel to fit at a later stage to give it more legs for longer ranges.

Rifle #3 .308 Paramount TR rifle with Krieger 1-13" barrel bought s/h from Fox firearms. Currently with Osprey Rifles getting a 20-MOA taper Picatinny rail fitted. S/h Fito-Force F/TR bi-pod from Osprey for £100 and s/h but brand new Sightron 8-32X56 LRTD at £650 to be used. Rifle will be used at all ranges up to 1K. Total cost ~£1,500 all-in, about £200-300 more than a new Remy 700PSS or similar in 'bare condition'.

On the scope question, undoubtedly Sightron for target shooting. I now have four 8-32s, split equally between the LRTD (FCH+dot) reticle and the LRMOA model with easy-zero tactical type turrets and the 2-MOA fine hash-mark reticle.

You'll also find many excellent rifle-buld / modification projects covered in the magazine, many by Vince Bottomley (Gun Pimp on this and other forums) and Vince has done many excellent scope reviews over the years, although I don't think the issues they're in are accessible right now while the online magazine's website is being rebuilt.

Re: Need a good mid priced scope

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:01 pm
by Gun Pimp
Laurie,

I remember reviewing your 8-32 Sightron, a Fox Chinese 8-32 and a 8-32 Hakko. The Sightron blitzed it in every respect - optics, adjustment accuracy and most internal adjustment. However, the Fox Chinese fared better than the Hakko if I remember.

Re: Need a good mid priced scope

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:47 pm
by Dangermouse
I still have my Falcon Menace although now use a Sightron at 3 times the price.

I will not sell it as it proved to be a much better scope than the price suggested, handling my first couple of years F Class shooting without any problems. Tracking on my one was first rate, returning to zero every time. I only upgraded as the magnification on my scope was only 18x and not what I needed for F Class.
My first scope had an issue and was replaced very quickly and with not problems under warranty. In fact I was given an upgrade as way of an apology.

Highly recommend looking at them,

http://www.falconoptics.com/
DM

Re: Need a good mid priced scope

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:48 pm
by Gun Pimp
Just had a look at the Falcon Optics website DM

These scopes are clearly from the same stable as the Foxy optics - they look identical with that ugly turret-block.

Nothing wrong with them - for £100 but Falcon are charging £200-300!

The latest Foxy scope doesn't have that ugly turret-block and the controls work as they should - smoothly.

Re: Need a good mid priced scope

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:00 pm
by Meaty
Gun Pimp wrote:Just had a look at the Falcon Optics website DM

These scopes are clearly from the same stable as the Foxy optics - they look identical with that ugly turret-block.

Nothing wrong with them - for £100 but Falcon are charging £200-300!

The latest Foxy scope doesn't have that ugly turret-block and the controls work as they should - smoothly.
I beg to differ on the above-Brians scopes are almost identical to Zos scopes (not saying that they are made by Zos as I dont know) but they differ greatly to the Falcons, yes the "ugly turret block" is a square format but so are, for example IOR's and a close inspection of the Falcons shows different turrets, turret stem markings, mag ring, rear lens housing, choice of rectiles and overall finish. I have compared the Zos scopes to Falcons and would choose a Falcon every time purely on optical quality and finish alone. Having said that, I had a chat with Brian recently and had a good look through one of his latest offerings and it was impressive for the price.........bloody confusing mine-field this scope thing sign01

Re: Need a good mid priced scope

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:06 pm
by phaedra1106
Meaty, are the latest ones the 8-32 that keeps being mentioned but aren't shown on the website?.

Confusing seems to be an apt description :good:

Re: Need a good mid priced scope

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:17 pm
by Meaty
phaedra1106 wrote:Meaty, are the latest ones the 8-32 that keeps being mentioned but aren't shown on the website?.

Confusing seems to be an apt description :good:
Brians 8-32's are under the same description as the 4-16's (the first scope at the top of the page)
http://www.foxfirearmsuk.com/index.php? ... Itemid=113
Although the picture at the top is the 8-32.
I one I recently had a good look through was the 10-40.

Re: Need a good mid priced scope

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:53 pm
by phaedra1106
So they are, didn't see it only the first 4-16 bit!.