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Re: Brass Preparation
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 9:46 pm
by Graham M
Oooooooh
I love it when women talk dirty.

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G.M.
Re: Brass Preparation
Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:39 pm
by The Gun Pimp
Christel,
I used to batch weigh brass for 6PPC benchrest but I've proved to my own satisfaction that it is a fruitless excercise - but do it if it makes you feel good.
There is a feeling that a lighter case will have more volume and therefore maybe lower the pressure slightly but I went to the factory of a major amunition manufacturer once and asked if they batched-weighed. They showed me a graph made from thousands of rounds - case weight v velocity - there was no trend.
Cheers
Vince
Re: Brass Preparation
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:37 pm
by targetman
I have to say that over nearly 40 years of reloading, including competition ammunition, that the most basic methods work well. Clean the case thoroughly, clean the primer pocket, re-size, re-prime, re-charge and seat bullet. Job done.
All the careful selection by weight, neck thickness, neck tension etc., etc., may produce perfect ammunition but one thing that perfect ammunition cannot do is to read the wind on any given day at the range.
In other words the most important element in reloading and shooting is the nut holding the butt......you !! A good shot, with good wind reading ability, using a decent rifle and average ammunition will out shoot somebody using the latest shooting machine, the best hand loaded ammunition who does not have the ability to exploit it.
Having said all that, I do think there is great pleasure to be derived from the process of bringing together the components to the best of your abilities. I started hand loading because I could not afford the best ammunition, my biggest investment was my time. I still get a great deal of satisfaction in loading and using match quality ammunition that costs about 50% less than the guy next to me on the firing point, especially if I do my bit and read the conditions accurately.
Re: Brass Preparation
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:22 pm
by pe4king
targetman wrote:In other words the most important element in reloading and shooting is the nut holding the butt......you !! A good shot, with good wind reading ability, using a decent rifle and average ammunition will out shoot somebody using the latest shooting machine, the best hand loaded ammunition who does not have the ability to exploit it.
I have witnessed the perfect example of this a bloke at our club has some (about 6) of the most expensive precision rifles with optics to match known to man, he it from what I hear and see is completely anal about his reloading to the point of stupidity.
:?: :idea: And to put it scientificly :!: :!: :!:
He cant hit a cows arse with a banjo :?
True I saw it in colour :lol:
Re: Brass Preparation
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:29 pm
by Christel
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Re: Brass Preparation
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:33 pm
by Christel
The Gun Pimp wrote:Christel,
I used to batch weigh brass for 6PPC benchrest but I've proved to my own satisfaction that it is a fruitless excercise - but do it if it makes you feel good.
There is a feeling that a lighter case will have more volume and therefore maybe lower the pressure slightly but I went to the factory of a major amunition manufacturer once and asked if they batched-weighed. They showed me a graph made from thousands of rounds - case weight v velocity - there was no trend.
Cheers
Vince
No trend eh, it does actually make me smile. I know of people who go to the nth degree to make the perfect round. It looks like what I started out by saying is the general consensus. No need to measure and weigh. However of course if it makes you feel better about what you are shooting then by all means go ahead.

Re: Brass Preparation
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:48 pm
by ovenpaa
Repeatability is the most important factor, your scales may show 44.4 grains for your perfect load and 45.4 to to the person next to you that to a degree is less important than the fact that you can repeat your build quality with every reload. Feeling good about what you do is equally important because as I often say, it is one thing less to worry about at the range.
For some reason it reminds me of a brilliant Youtube clip I watched a couple of year ago, it was a young Australian lad hand building his ammunition with just a couple of dies and a hammer, I seem to remember he very seriously advocated the use of a well known lubricant available from the chemists as a case lube, he took immense pride in every step of the process using a powder dipper on an old bench outside and gave a running commentary. He felt good about what he was doing, it was one thing less to worry about and you just know he went out and used every round with as much pride as the most 'advanced' reloader. It honestly was a pleasure to watch him.
I bet he hit what he was aiming at as well

Re: Brass Preparation
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:02 pm
by Christel
You mean like me?

Re: Brass Preparation
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:06 pm
by ovenpaa
No, he used a hammer with finesse, you always look like you are clubbing baby seals...
Re: Brass Preparation
Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:21 pm
by Christel
I meant hit what he was aiming at. Like me
