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Re: Civilian use of MOD Ranges - New policy
Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 10:33 pm
by Alpha1
This is not a new policy the hand loaded ammunition thing has been in force for ages.
Re: Civilian use of MOD Ranges - New policy
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:16 am
by Chapuis
Chuck wrote:it may be that the use of tracer is banned because of the increased risk that this poses to non-MoD shooters
What risk is that - apart from a rare chance of a grass fire in summer?
Sim good post.
That's exactly the risk Chuck. They don't tend to call them grass fires any more, they tend to refer to them as wildfires so as to better indicate the amount of damage both short and long term that this type of fire causes.
Re: Civilian use of MOD Ranges - New policy
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:48 am
by meles meles
Damage, or an opportunity for rejuvenation ? They'll be banning lightning next...
Re: Civilian use of MOD Ranges - New policy
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:15 am
by Charlotte the flyer
Good look trying to see splash at 1600m

Re: Civilian use of MOD Ranges - New policy
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:24 am
by Charlotte the flyer
What does this mean?
Use of Non-Service Pattern Weapons and ammunition
which are not within the parameters laid down in the relevant range MoD Form 904 will not
be permitted.
Does anybody know what's listed in Mod Form 904.
Re: Civilian use of MOD Ranges - New policy
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:52 am
by Chapuis
meles meles wrote:Damage, or an opportunity for rejuvenation ? They'll be banning lightning next...
When it burns out fence lines and trees that were planted some years ago it is damage and costly to replace, but I agree that in some instances a quick burn off can be beneficial. However many longer open ranges are built on moorland and if the fire gets down into the peat level below it can take months to extinguish and involve a tremendous amount of manpower and equipment. The range could then be out of use for months on end because no one can shoot when people are working in the danger area.
Re: Civilian use of MOD Ranges - New policy
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:04 am
by Chapuis
I neglected to also mention the damage to wildlife that wildfires also cause especially ground nesting birds, some of which are quite rare and benefit from the protection offered by danger areas where the public do not normally have the right to roam.
Re: Civilian use of MOD Ranges - New policy
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:08 am
by Blackstuff
So you can't use them on field fire ranges either?! Feel sorry for anyone that has a load of tracer eating up their ammo limit, how can they get rid of it apart from pulling all the bullets so their no longer part of their ammo limit??

Re: Civilian use of MOD Ranges - New policy
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 10:13 am
by StanDeasy
The JSP 403 rule prior to these changes stated:
"Civilian clubs are not permitted...... to fire tracer on any range other than a FFA."
So yes, it's now a total ban.
SD
Re: Civilian use of MOD Ranges - New policy
Posted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:12 pm
by tackb
I don't get the civilian distinction ? How does it matter who fires it?