I can't imagine any more pressure than an ounce of tightly packed shot going through a choke tube.
The difference being that the new choke has rifling and instead of being tightly packed (with some room to manouever) it is a solid lump of lead. It would be like fitting a couple of feet of sand paper on a water slide!
Perhaps pressure is the wrong word, it would be more strain on the metal around the choke screws.
I see what you're saying. No, I still don't think it's a problem as the Lee slug casts to a nominal .695", obviously you then have the plastic wad and the groove diameter on the choke is .730.
Coupled with, they've been using them in the US for years so that one gun can double as a turkey and deer gun.....
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?
Guns dont kill people. Dads with pretty Daughters do...!
As far as I am concerned, if you put a rifled choke on a barrel you are doing the same as putting a rifled barrel on the shotgun and we are all agreed that then becomes a Sec5 Firearm.
As far as shooting target shotgun at Bisley is concerned, the rules have been written so that you have to use a 12 gauge and a shotgun ie not a rifle. If you were to turn up with a rifle you may not be allowed to compete, or if you did the score is unlikely to be counted.
Don't forget that the Target Shotgun events ran at Bisley are staffed by the Blue team which is to the greater extent made up from serving and retired Police Officers, so you don't want to turn up with the wrong paperwork - it happens!
But that a side, I cant see that a rifled slug it going to enjoy going through a rifled choke. I have seen experimental rifled bullets but as we do not use them I assume they do not work
Dangermouse wrote:As far as I am concerned, if you put a rifled choke on a barrel you are doing the same as putting a rifled barrel on the shotgun and we are all agreed that then becomes a Sec5 Firearm.
As far as shooting target shotgun at Bisley is concerned, the rules have been written so that you have to use a 12 gauge and a shotgun ie not a rifle. If you were to turn up with a rifle you may not be allowed to compete, or if you did the score is unlikely to be counted.
Don't forget that the Target Shotgun events ran at Bisley are staffed by the Blue team which is to the greater extent made up from serving and retired Police Officers, so you don't want to turn up with the wrong paperwork - it happens!
But that a side, I cant see that a rifled slug it going to enjoy going through a rifled choke. I have seen experimental rifled bullets but as we do not use them I assume they do not work
DM
Rifled tubes might be S1 but as DM says putting them on a shotgun would make it a S1 Rifle at best and worst a S5 rifle.
Rifled choke tubes are big in the US and Canada due to some States and Provinces only allowing deer hunting with shotguns.
Just had a text and it seems that fitting a rifled choke may very well, as we all thought, turn a semi or pump shotgun S5. But not a lever action........
He's going to speak with the Home Office for the definitive answer.
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?
Guns dont kill people. Dads with pretty Daughters do...!
Sim G wrote:Just had a text and it seems that fitting a rifled choke may very well, as we all thought, turn a semi or pump shotgun S5. But not a lever action........
He's going to speak with the Home Office for the definitive answer.
Sim
Have you opened up a can of worms mate :roll:
still somone has to ask these questions at least its you
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Not sure Kev, but I suppose, if the questions weren't ask, we wouldn't have target shotgun full stop. Or LBRs, or the self extracting 9mm SGCs.........
But, you never know. We reckon it's S5, but the HO may think otherwise...... LOL!!
In 1978 I was told by my grand dad that the secret to rifle accuracy is, a quality bullet, fired down a quality barrel..... How has that changed?
Guns dont kill people. Dads with pretty Daughters do...!
My local RFD had similar enquiry. Seems once fitted the shotgun is not legal and taking them OUT again makes no difference, the "offence " has been committed.
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Sim G wrote:Just had a text and it seems that fitting a rifled choke may very well, as we all thought, turn a semi or pump shotgun S5. But not a lever action........
He's going to speak with the Home Office for the definitive answer.
Lever Action - There's a thought, a Winchester 9410 with a rifled choke.
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I would have thought that there was very little need to consult anyone really as the law is pretty clear on this one if you just think about it and especially if you relate it to such things as a paradox shotgun.
If even only part of the barrel is rifled it becomes a part 1.
If it is a pump action or semi-auto it becomes a section 5. Underlevers like the 94410 obviously become a section 1 if fitted with a rifled choke tube.
I'm surprised that a dealer didn't realise this. It's certainly an interesting point regarding once fitted does that firearm remain in the higher class regardless of whether the rifled tube is fitted or not!
Funny this should pop up as only a month or so ago one of our club members a relatively new shooter informed me that he was intending to order a rifled choke tube for his Winchester 1300. I advised him against it and explained the situation.
