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Re: NRA Facebook Video of Imperial Day 1
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 8:57 pm
by HALODIN
Thanks for explaining it, it sounds perfectly safe.
DanTheMan wrote:There is a mandatory safety catch check on every single rifle before starting the course of fire and there is a RO assigned to each shooter to ensure it's applied before movement.
Re: NRA Facebook Video of Imperial Day 1
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:01 pm
by Charlie Muggins
channel12 wrote:HALODIN wrote:Blimey you have a very different set of rules at Bisley compared to our local club. I was taught a safety isn't to be relied upon. I'm sure it's safe enough, but it's a different culture.
Perhaps your club officals could tell the military that safety catches can't be relied on because hundreds of soldiers do rundowns on at Bisley that way. Maybe you think the soldiers should bag their rifles first before running and also not carry their rifles slung on their shoulders after being cleared off the point?
Didn't you hear? MOD will soon require all combat personnel to carry their rifles mag off, bolt out, a safety flag in the breech and individually proved clear by their sect ldr before moving to the next firing position. It's due to take effect the day after the national hammer ban and a week after the ban on handloads at Bisley.
Re: NRA Facebook Video of Imperial Day 1
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:14 pm
by HALODIN
Apart from in competitions, do some clubs allow people forward of the firing point whilst the guns are loaded, but the safety catches are on?
channel12 wrote:Perhaps your club officals could tell the military that safety catches can't be relied on because hundreds of soldiers do rundowns on at Bisley that way. Maybe you think the soldiers should bag their rifles first before running and also not carry their rifles slung on their shoulders after being cleared off the point?
Re: NRA Facebook Video of Imperial Day 1
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:16 pm
by HALODIN
Sounds about right...
Charlie Muggins wrote:Didn't you hear? MOD will soon require all combat personnel to carry their rifles mag off, bolt out, a safety flag in the breech and individually proved clear by their sect ldr before moving to the next firing position. It's due to take effect the day after the national hammer ban and a week after the ban on handloads at Bisley.
Re: NRA Facebook Video of Imperial Day 1
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:29 pm
by Dougan
HALODIN wrote:Apart from in competitions, do some clubs allow people forward of the firing point whilst the guns are loaded, but the safety catches are on?
No...unless you're practicing a run-down...obviously.
You're not wrong to question it, if all you've shot is Target or Gallery rifle and had those safety rules drummed in (and there's nothing wrong with that either) - That's why different types of shooting are called disciplines; and this type of shooting requires some genuine 'discipline' - As has been said, there are safety checks done by individual ROs, and I would imagine (haven't done it since I was at school) that shooters are 'not' expected to just rely on the safety catch, but take care in what they're doing and where they're running...
...probably the most dangerous thing about it would be tripping up and landing badly on your rifle...
Re: NRA Facebook Video of Imperial Day 1
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:33 pm
by HALODIN
Just seemed a bit odd, I've never seen anything like that in UK civilian shooting before. Looks cool though.
Re: NRA Facebook Video of Imperial Day 1
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:18 am
by Individual
HALODIN wrote:Just seemed a bit odd, I've never seen anything like that in UK civilian shooting before. Looks cool though.
It is cool, great fun, and its been going on for years.
Get yourself along to a CSR match ( one a month at Bisley starting October 5th )
Re: NRA Facebook Video of Imperial Day 1
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:34 am
by Gaz
During the Falling Plates we were advancing, as civilians, with rifles loaded/made safe (rounds in mag, no rounds in chamber).
For some reason I still don't understand the NRA won't let us do that as a club at Bisley, even with the same ratio of safety supervisors. Makes training for these matches a bit unrealistic.
Re: NRA Facebook Video of Imperial Day 1
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:11 am
by John MH
I'm led to belief that they require the RCO to be SA90(B) qualified, ie a Military RCO qualification, to conduct a Rundown so the NRA RCO qualification alone doesn't cut the mustard.
Re: NRA Facebook Video of Imperial Day 1
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:24 am
by HALODIN
I plan to at some point soon. Looking forward to it!
Individual wrote:It is cool, great fun, and its been going on for years.
Get yourself along to a CSR match ( one a month at Bisley starting October 5th )