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Who was talking about penknives? If I use (& have so used) a Gerber Mk.II to cut leather, is that now a tool for my job/work?

How about a Fairbairn Sykes knife? (I make a range of scabbards for these knives, so frequently have an F~S knife & several F~S scabbards with me for sales/demonstration purposes...)

always in my pocket :-) as recommended to me by a certain SimG of the parish

Alan

Two separate laws.

Offensive Weapons: You can't have anything made, adapted or intended as a weapon in a public place without lawful authority or reasonable excuse.

CJA S139: You can't have bladed or sharply pointed articles, except a [non-locking] folding pocket knife with a cutting edge of at most 3in, in a public place without lawful authority or good reason. (You have to show good reason to a balance of probabilities standard.)

It is possible for possession of an article to be in accordance with one of these but contravention of the other - you need to satisfy both.

saddler wrote:Who was talking about penknives? If I use (& have so used) a Gerber Mk.II to cut leather, is that now a tool for my job/work?

How about a Fairbairn Sykes knife? (I make a range of scabbards for these knives, so frequently have an F~S knife & several F~S scabbards with me for sales/demonstration purposes...)

20 series and nickb834 were talking about penknives, 'non locking folder under 3" ' is a penknife.

the good reasons you refered to do not relate to a penknife, which is what i said. as you do not need a good reason to carry a penknife. however, even though you dont need a reason, if you decided to give one to said policeman, and you said self defense, you would be commiting an offense, which is what i said.

up until that point, we had been referring to penknives, you said about reasons for carrying a knife IE not a penknife, thats what i was pointing out

20series wrote:always in my pocket :-) as recommended to me by a certain SimG of the parish

Alan

i used to carry one of these regulary, until the choil bit me quite badly one day. for non work EDC i know use the boker subcom 42 titanium. fits perfectly in the change pocket of my jeans

or i use a custom made k'roo in a belt pouch

bradaz11 wrote:

saddler wrote:Who was talking about penknives? If I use (& have so used) a Gerber Mk.II to cut leather, is that now a tool for my job/work?

How about a Fairbairn Sykes knife? (I make a range of scabbards for these knives, so frequently have an F~S knife & several F~S scabbards with me for sales/demonstration purposes...)

20 series and nickb834 were talking about penknives, 'non locking folder under 3" ' is a penknife.

the good reasons you refered to do not relate to a penknife, which is what i said. as you do not need a good reason to carry a penknife. however, even though you dont need a reason, if you decided to give one to said policeman, and you said self defense, you would be commiting an offense, which is what i said.

up until that point, we had been referring to penknives, you said about reasons for carrying a knife IE not a penknife, thats what i was pointing out

Also - important to point out that the 3" rule CAN be read by some as the EDGE length, not the blade length.
I modified my main EDC knife accordingly by grinding some of the cutting edge off

&

Don't forget, you cannot take ANY knife, irrespective of design/length, into a sports stadium

20series wrote:

SevenSixTwo wrote:Meanwhile in Britain...

This is the sad reality of what Britain has become today, we have effectively lost our right to proper self defence & our freedom of speech has been replaced by political correctness, especially with regard to the muslim extremism problem, it won't end well for many.

4I

I loved the show. But he's deluded about civil defence.

We'd just end up with a lot more people shot if everyone carried guns for defence.

Oh dear SF. Knock it off!

safetyfirst wrote:I loved the show. But he's deluded about civil defence.

We'd just end up with a lot more people shot if everyone carried guns for defence.

...based on what facts/evidence?

I thought Civil Defence did quite a good job during the Blitz