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My Stoeger M3000 was too long for me, so I cut it down with a hacksaw*. It's lovely now, can move around those tight courses of fire much easier.


* By that I mean the stock, LOP Was about 14 1/2" now closer to 13 1/2"

BamBam wrote:My Stoeger M3000 was too long for me, so I cut it down with a hacksaw. It's lovely now, can move around those tight courses of fire much easier.

Aye, it looks really smart with those 8" off the barrel; the factory fitted 28" one was far too long & unwieldy

No mention yet for the Remington 1100 or 11-87?
Lots of them around at good prices and loads of accessories available for them.

The Event wrote:No mention yet for the Remington 1100 or 11-87?
Lots of them around at good prices and loads of accessories available for them.

But hasn't the quality gone down hill in recent years?

Blackstuff wrote: Do not, i repeat DO NOT buy a Hatsan Escort for PSG

Why?

Not everyone is in it to win it. What's the point of having the same gear as the best if you simply don't have the time to dedicate to compete with them? I like PSG because I love the adrenaline of it I don't really forsee my self as a dedicated / top level competitor (that's what DTL is for )

Buy the gun you enjoy shooting, there's nothing wrong with walt (especially if it saves you over a grand!). Even if that means rocking up with a VEPR-12 Just my 2 pence.

From when I looked into it, converting an S.2 shotgun to S.1 was substantially more expensive than just buying an S.1 straight off. Or, in this case, you'd probably still be better off buying a secondhand S.2 shotgun and then flogging it for what you paid for it when you buy an S.1

Sixshot6 wrote:

The Event wrote:No mention yet for the Remington 1100 or 11-87?
Lots of them around at good prices and loads of accessories available for them.

But hasn't the quality gone down hill in recent years?

Dunno, I got mine in the 90s and it's still going strong today (for the person I recently sold it to as I wanted a Mossberg JM Pro)
Most of the cheaper second hand ones are probably a bit on the older side anyway.

The Event wrote:No mention yet for the Remington 1100 or 11-87?
Lots of them around at good prices and loads of accessories available for them.

3rd post in mate
I had an 11-87 and was impressed by it. It functioned perfectly and the bolt release being built into the lifter is excellent for PSG. It was just a bit too heavy for me with a metal extension and my dodgy arthritic elbow. I Part-exed it for the Vinci, then another guy from my club bought it the day after!
You could just get an m2, then spend a few £100 making it suit PSG... or you could do the same with almost any shotgun, even a hatsan, and save yourself some cash.
I've seen so many M2s failing over the last 6 months I wouldn't touch one.

Lead-Fouling wrote:

Blackstuff wrote: Do not, i repeat DO NOT buy a Hatsan Escort for PSG

Why?

Not everyone is in it to win it. What's the point of having the same gear as the best if you simply don't have the time to dedicate to compete with them? I like PSG because I love the adrenaline of it I don't really forsee my self as a dedicated / top level competitor (that's what DTL is for )

Buy the gun you enjoy shooting, there's nothing wrong with walt (especially if it saves you over a grand!). Even if that means rocking up with a VEPR-12 Just my 2 pence.

You might not want/expect to win, but coming last every time because of your equipment, not because of your own abilities, is massively demoralising for most people.

Shooting a tube fed gun in PSG is very much dependant on how fast you can load the thing and both the original Hatsan AND the MPA are slow as frozen sh!t after the provider has been fed a diet of chilled molasses and road tar. They are NOT suitable guns for PSG, unless you are a machocist and enjoy being last in every match (unless of course everyone shooting is using a Hatsan, then that really would be a test of loading skill!).

There are other guns of similar price to the new Hatsan which have normal loading gates and will not be a handicap the Hatsan is. No need for anyone to get their knickers in a twist if they have one, there is nothing wrong with Hatsans for clays/pest control etc, if fact the ones i've seen a very reliable in function, they're just not suited for anything that requires fast loading. Simple as that.

Anyone using the Hatsan Raider yet? Detachable magazine....

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