Re: Noob question on moderators
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 10:05 pm
Some RFDs will refuse to sell a moderator unless it is proofed. I got into a heated discussion with one of them who had ordered me an ASE-Utra Dual Rimfire from Jackson Rifles and it arrived unproofed. He would not sell it to me until it was proofed and I had to absorb that cost.
I have numerous moderators, all in .22 and I have fired thousands of rounds through them. One of them is an unproofed A-TEC CMM4(6) which has had 12,500 rounds through it in the space of just under a year. I haven't cleaned it once, not even put any oil into it! It works just fine. That's a light-weight aluminium moderator. You can read how I am abusing it here:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/lead-dep ... 1-bertolli
The other type I have used extensively (with a high round count) is the ASE-Utra Dual Rimfire. I have one proofed and two others unproofed. It's more difficult to clean because all the baffles are stacked loose in the can. It is all steel, even the baffles.
Those two are quality moderators, roughly the same price. I think for ease of use, reduction in weight and all-round satisfaction I would choose the A-TEC CMM4(6) which is the one with 6 baffles. It is not meant to be opened: the recommendation is to spray some cleaner into it after each session.
For those two moderators, I can't see why they need to be proofed and I wouldn't buy those from an RFD who insisted they had to be! That's for .22LR...
I'm still waiting for someone to show me an unproofed moderator that was damaged, or caused damage to a shooter or a gun because of some defect in it which would have been detected at the proof house.
I'm willing to wager that all such incidents are more likely to be caused by an incorrectly-threaded barrel or other misalignment, rather than any pressure-related failure in the can.
However, some RFDs are worried that a buyer who has an "incident" with a moderator would then be able to take legal action against the RFD if the moderator was not proofed.
My advice is to find out what their stance is before you order, and if they say the .22 can must be proofed, then buy it elsewhere.
I have numerous moderators, all in .22 and I have fired thousands of rounds through them. One of them is an unproofed A-TEC CMM4(6) which has had 12,500 rounds through it in the space of just under a year. I haven't cleaned it once, not even put any oil into it! It works just fine. That's a light-weight aluminium moderator. You can read how I am abusing it here:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/lead-dep ... 1-bertolli
The other type I have used extensively (with a high round count) is the ASE-Utra Dual Rimfire. I have one proofed and two others unproofed. It's more difficult to clean because all the baffles are stacked loose in the can. It is all steel, even the baffles.
Those two are quality moderators, roughly the same price. I think for ease of use, reduction in weight and all-round satisfaction I would choose the A-TEC CMM4(6) which is the one with 6 baffles. It is not meant to be opened: the recommendation is to spray some cleaner into it after each session.
For those two moderators, I can't see why they need to be proofed and I wouldn't buy those from an RFD who insisted they had to be! That's for .22LR...
I'm still waiting for someone to show me an unproofed moderator that was damaged, or caused damage to a shooter or a gun because of some defect in it which would have been detected at the proof house.
I'm willing to wager that all such incidents are more likely to be caused by an incorrectly-threaded barrel or other misalignment, rather than any pressure-related failure in the can.
However, some RFDs are worried that a buyer who has an "incident" with a moderator would then be able to take legal action against the RFD if the moderator was not proofed.
My advice is to find out what their stance is before you order, and if they say the .22 can must be proofed, then buy it elsewhere.