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Re: Really bad for russian armour in Ukraine
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:14 am
by DanTheMan
They have at least (or had) 3,615 NLAW, 1,200 Javelin, 5,000 Bofors AT-4, 1,000 Panzerfaust 3 and about 4,500 M72 LAW so that's going to create a lot of scrap Russian metal
Re: Really bad for russian armour in Ukraine
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:46 am
by 20series
DanTheMan wrote: ↑Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:14 am
They have at least (or had) 3,615 NLAW, 1,200 Javelin, 5,000 Bofors AT-4, 1,000 Panzerfaust 3 and about 4,500 M72 LAW so that's going to create a lot of scrap Russian metal
Well that lot should keep old Ivans head down for a while
Alan
Re: Really bad for russian armour in Ukraine
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 11:47 am
by RDC
DaveB wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 pm
Although I do not think the Russians are using T34's, I
do notice a lot of older armour in reports coming from the Ukraine. I have seen a lot of T72s and the like. I suspect the Russians are sacrificing old armour to draw out and exhaust Ukrainian supplies of modern anti-armour weapons. My guess is that when they think supplies of Javelin and the like are exhausted, they will release their more modern armour, hoping the Ukrainians will have nothing but small, hand-help systems like RPG7 and M72s, to fight them with. These will be largely ineffective against a T90 for example. It's the sort of pragmatic thinking you expect from a Russian. If I am right, then the solution, of course, is that the West keeps supplying the Ukrainians with modern anti-armour weapons.
I keep seeing this comment, but I'm not so sure I believe it. It's the same with the air asset losses. People point to older jet losses and ignore that more modern airframes have been blotted out of the sky and lost.
T-90s and modern variants of the T-72 are being fielded by Russia and are being lost. Even the T-80 they are deploying isn't obsolete like people are claiming.
This is a good resource that is tallying Russian armoured losses in Ukraine and is only showing those they can document with photographic evidence. Each has the photo there on the list to show it's a different vehicle and take away a lot of the propaganda that repeatedly shows the same vehicles taken out and claimed to be fresh losses.
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/a ... t.html?m=1
Re: Really bad for russian armour in Ukraine
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:39 pm
by Airbrush
All very sobering, my lads a Bulldog driver in an armoured engineer squadron & they're ancient bits of kit. Still they’d probably not get near any action as they’re always breaking down apparently.
Re: Really bad for russian armour in Ukraine
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:49 pm
by Mauserbill
Hello
Same for the Russian Ts Then the farmers come along and toe them away.
Re: Really bad for russian armour in Ukraine
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 pm
by GeeRam
Mauserbill wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:49 pm
Hello
Same for the Russian Ts Then the farmers come along and toe them away.
There was another video I saw the other day, which showed a car repair workshop that had designed and was machining up stock conversion kits for all the Russian HMG's that they have been removing from knocked out/abandoned Russian tanks and APC's, so they can be re-used as ground weapons by Ukraine troops. The car repair shop was mostly staffed by ex-soldiers so they knew what was needed and they have have designed what looked adapted AKM timber stocks to fit the vehicle HMG's.
Re: Really bad for russian armour in Ukraine
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:09 am
by DanTheMan
Just seen footage of Russian troops equipped with Nagant 1891's
Re: Really bad for russian armour in Ukraine
Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:09 am
by RDC
DanTheMan wrote: ↑Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:09 am
Just seen footage of Russian troops equipped with Nagant 1891's
I'm fairly confident those will be DPR or LPR reservists called up at the start.