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Re: Some random questions to TR shooters
Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:24 pm
by Dougan
Gaz wrote:Dougan wrote:So, again I don't know why I couldn't string 7 bulls-eyes together...was it the cheek piece, the size of the iris, the lens or something else? - One of my biggest problems is that every time I shoot it's a competition, which means limited rounds, time and experimentation....I would love to not worry about the score, play about with the sights and shoot some groups, or even ten from a cold barrel without moving the sights at all...
Any one fancy an all day target-share (preferably 300/600) next Friday, Saturday or Sunday...? (assuming there's some available)
My bold - if you changed all of those, it's probably a combination of small errors from getting used to the new gear, multiplied together. Then again, if you have a piece of spongy foam for a cheekpiece does that not lead to a variable cheek position and stock pressure?
It's well worth getting down for a practice shoot and just quietly tweaking one at a time without needing to worry about score and such. Do you fill in the scorebook graphs during/after your shoots? I find that those tell me far more about my shooting than the raw score - I seem to have developed a knack for predicting my position gradually collapsing during a shoot and cranking up enough elevation to compensate. My last 300x was a 49, but according to the graph it was one of the worst shoots I've had this season.
As for foresight lenses, I'm of the school of thought that says gadgets inevitably lead to screw-ups and blaming your kit rather than the nut behind the butt. (want proof? Talk to someone with a Gemini stock after he's had a bad shoot. Pound to a penny says he pulls out a set of allenkeys within ten minutes) Then again, the people who use lenses shoot for GB, whereas I'm bumping along the bottom of the county team ... !
Certainly changing so many things at once doesn't help - This season I've been gradually removing all the things that distract my shoot...getting the scope, mat and score card all in the right place (which I didn't do at the start of my 600 shoot yesterday :cool2: ), sorting a comfortable position with the hand-stop and butt...by far the best thing I've done this year is to wear a neoprene pad on my left elbow...
...one of the last things to sort is my front sight, as my eyes are not what they were, and I'm struggling to focus for 10 shots...
And, what do you mean, when you say "a piece of spongy foam for a cheek-piece"...you make it sound like it's not really cool! :lol:
You up for a shoot this weekend?
Re: Some random questions to TR shooters
Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:30 pm
by meles meles
You up for a shoot this weekend?
Careful, tree rat, careless talk costs lives...
Re: Some random questions to TR shooters
Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:43 pm
by Dougan
meles meles wrote:
You up for a shoot this weekend?
Careful, tree rat, careless talk costs lives...
....a sore subject for me too...and not sure whether to get into it right now...
Re: Some random questions to TR shooters
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:50 am
by GazMorris
karen wrote:The secret to success? Practice, practice, practice!
Yes and no.
Lots of live firing is a good thing (and lots of fun!) but endlessly banging rounds down the range isn't necessarily going to improve your technique or scores a huge amount all on its own. You need to train as well as to practice, that is; work out what is going wrong and address the flaws in your technique. The best way to do this is buy, beg or borrow a SCATT (a couple of the clubs have them now) and spend an awful lot of time with it. Once you've ironed out the issues with your basic technique, you can the use it to start to experiment with new ways of doing things and new equipment.
For example, if you've got an adjustable cheekpiece, how high should it be? With a SCATT, you can work your way through a range of settings to find out which ones give you the best results without needing to blat through a couple of hundred quid's worth of ammo!
Gaz
Re: Some random questions to TR shooters
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:20 pm
by Dougan
I'm afraid a SCATT is out of the question at the moment, but I'm definitely feeling the benefit of the dry-firing practice - Although I've discovered that things aren't right yet, on the last shoot I didn't feel fatigued towards the last few shots...I think due to finally finding a comfortable position and practicing in it...
...but some of it needs tweaking and confirming with live fire - I'm confident that I can find a set of variables to stick with for a while with 50 - 60 shots...
...then I think the dry-fire will be of even more benifit.
As an aside - I've had problems loading the Mk4 with standard ammo...if I don't 'feed' it into the chamber (as opposed to just dropping it in the breach and closing the bolt) the round stops against the face of the chamber...but with the snap-caps (small bullet on them) it loads just fine...?
Re: Some random questions to TR shooters
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:42 pm
by meles meles
"Practice", as we sued to say to the recruits, "makes permanent." It can reinforce a bad habit just as easily as a good one.
Re: Some random questions to TR shooters
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:36 pm
by Hauptman
Re difficulty loading the Swing, try canting it to the left, muzzle down, drop in cartridge.................works for me. (well, most of the time......)
H/man
Re: Some random questions to TR shooters
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:21 pm
by karen
I always had to feed mine in by hand when I had a Swing - just got used to it
Love
Karen
Re: Some random questions to TR shooters
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 11:22 pm
by IainWR
Doesn't have to be muzzle down, just tilt it to one side (doesn't matter which) so the round is lifted very slightly out of the bolt lug grooves. Then the nose of the bullet will run cleanly over the lip of the chamber and slide in sweetly.
Iain
Re: Some random questions to TR shooters
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:12 pm
by Dougan
I'll make a dummie round and try tilting and canting
