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As above I'just got a 600 and the mag tube screwed off real easy.It has to really as you need to to strip the gun.Looks handy for when i want to move it to sec one.

Why do you need to take the mag tube off Mr Smith? What does it allow you access to?

mr smith wrote:As above I'just got a 600 and the mag tube screwed off real easy... Looks handy for when i want to move it to sec one.

In that case, it's a Sect 1 already.

It has a crimped tube for a two shot mag.On the 600 it is the only way to get the forend off and you cant strip the gun without taking the forend off first.

Quite possibly but a Sect 2 gun requires that a magazine tube is not easily removable.

I just watched a video of a guy disassembling the 600, he didn't need to take the mag tube off. Not doubting you mate, just seems odd, you may have a different model 600 though

Scratch that, was a 500, doh!

The 600 is almost the same apart from you have to unscrew the "action-slide tube nut" before you can remove the fore-end.
Once this is done you simply disassemble the action as the 500, but you have to remove the magazine tube before you can remove the "action slide assembly". Which seems bloody silly if you can't remove the magazine tube.

They aren't easy to remove but they are NOT sweated in, although they may have a bit of thread-lock or similar.

As I said earlier, all it needs is an old scope ring that you tighten onto the tube right at the very end where the tube is closed. You then simply use the scope ring as a fulcrum to twist the tube off and unscrew it.

It was a very simple thing to do, and without this procedure I couldn't have removed the "action slide assembly".


I remember way back in 88/89 when I converted an old P/A Franchi to a two-shot by crimping the magazine and drilling the action to insert a hardened steel rod capped with the ball-bearing, to make it impossible to remove the magazine tube.

It was certainly true then that the magazine had to be permanently fixed, but I don't know how this can apply now because there is certainly nothing there to prevent a tube from being swapped for another one.

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G.M.

Graham M wrote: It was certainly true then that the magazine had to be permanently fixed

It is still true. Look at https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... s-2010.pdf , the legal standard for magazine restrictions [as previously linked]. It specifically has sections for magazine restriction (crimping, permenant restrictions of followers etc) and permenantly fixing the magazine tube to the receiver. It makes no allowances for needing to remove the magazine for cleaning, other than:

Very minor deviations may be necessitated by the design of individual guns.

Some models of gun may not lend themselves to adaptation in this way. These will have to be converted to single shot weapons if the problems cannot be overcome.

I (and I'm pretty sure the police/cps/courts would agree, otherwise it's effectively open season) that "needing" to be able to easily remove the magazine tube to allow cleaning falls foul of both the "very minor deviations" and "necessitated" points of the first sentence quoted.

but I don't know how this can apply now because there is certainly nothing there to prevent a tube from being swapped for another one.

It doesn't. You're now in possession of an S2 shotgun that doesn't conform to the standards of restriction and the restriction certificate you (presumably) have. I would extremely quickly go and buy some of the specified loctite grade and apply it genorously.

I would not wish to be caught with an "S2" shotgun held on an SGC that blatantly fails the standard. I even more certainly would not wish to admit to owning one on an open forum that the police will almost certainly monitor.