Found it... although I think there's a longer version of this video. Have a look at 27-->30 seconds and 1:06-->1:08 minutes.
Re: AK47
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:15 pm
by Browning_grrl
Blu wrote:..... I thought we were discussing the AK47 which is good for spray and pray and that's about it.
True that.
Re: AK47
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:38 pm
by daman
snayperskaya wrote:Apart from the two I have now I've also had a Saiga AK-103 and a 104, which is the short barrelled carbine version, and not had an accuracy problem in the context of what they are designed for.Whilst not designed with real accuracy in mind at 100m you can hit clay pigeons no problem.
Ok, I have to ask - what kind of backstop have you to go shooting clays with an AK?
Re: AK47
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:39 pm
by breacher
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Your Saiga AKM! Sorry my mistake, I thought we were discussing the AK47 which is good for spray and pray and that's about it.[/quote]
No real difference in accuracy so I am not quite sure what your point is ? The saiga is no different other than being straight pull.
Yes, I know that on the semi auto there will be receiver flexing on recoil ( and an out of balance bolt carrier to cause a bit of longitudal torsion ) but its been proven it does not affect accuracy that much as the round has left the barrel before it occurs.
I have fired the Saiga, an original type 1 AK47, one AKM from practically every country who made them. All similar in terms of accuracy. The later Chinese Type 56-2 were the most accurate. Oh, and a Khyber Pass home made one. I will admit the Khyber was shockingly inaccurate.
Re: AK47
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:46 pm
by bradaz11
daman wrote:
snayperskaya wrote:Apart from the two I have now I've also had a Saiga AK-103 and a 104, which is the short barrelled carbine version, and not had an accuracy problem in the context of what they are designed for.Whilst not designed with real accuracy in mind at 100m you can hit clay pigeons no problem.
Ok, I have to ask - what kind of backstop have you to go shooting clays with an AK?
put a clay in front of a standard backstop?
i dont think he meant launching them in the air!
Re: AK47
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:51 pm
by daman
bradaz11 wrote:
daman wrote:
snayperskaya wrote:Apart from the two I have now I've also had a Saiga AK-103 and a 104, which is the short barrelled carbine version, and not had an accuracy problem in the context of what they are designed for.Whilst not designed with real accuracy in mind at 100m you can hit clay pigeons no problem.
Ok, I have to ask - what kind of backstop have you to go shooting clays with an AK?
put a clay in front of a standard backstop?
i dont think he meant launching them in the air!
D'oh! I feel stupid now
I was conjuring up images of a clays range with a convenient very high mountain backdrop
Re: AK47
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:19 pm
by bradaz11
i could be wrong.... :)
Re: AK47
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:24 pm
by snayperskaya
bradaz11 wrote:i could be wrong.... :)
No, you're right.......
Re: AK47
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:26 pm
by snayperskaya
breacher wrote:
Your Saiga AKM! Sorry my mistake, I thought we were discussing the AK47 which is good for spray and pray and that's about it.[/quote]
No real difference in accuracy so I am not quite sure what your point is ? The saiga is no different other than being straight pull.
Yes, I know that on the semi auto there will be receiver flexing on recoil ( and an out of balance bolt carrier to cause a bit of longitudal torsion ) but its been proven it does not affect accuracy that much as the round has left the barrel before it occurs.
I have fired the Saiga, an original type 1 AK47, one AKM from practically every country who made them. All similar in terms of accuracy. The later Chinese Type 56-2 were the most accurate. Oh, and a Khyber Pass home made one. I will admit the Khyber was shockingly inaccurate.[/quote]
The Zastava M70 is very accurate as well.
Re: AK47
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:27 pm
by Blu
breacher wrote:
Your Saiga AKM! Sorry my mistake, I thought we were discussing the AK47 which is good for spray and pray and that's about it.[/quote]
No real difference in accuracy so I am not quite sure what your point is ? The saiga is no different other than being straight pull.
Yes, I know that on the semi auto there will be receiver flexing on recoil ( and an out of balance bolt carrier to cause a bit of longitudal torsion ) but its been proven it does not affect accuracy that much as the round has left the barrel before it occurs.
I have fired the Saiga, an original type 1 AK47, one AKM from practically every country who made them. All similar in terms of accuracy. The later Chinese Type 56-2 were the most accurate. Oh, and a Khyber Pass home made one. I will admit the Khyber was shockingly inaccurate.[/quote]
Breacher, like you I have shot AK's in all forms and just about from every country that's made them as well as owning more than one of two in the past. Dude they are spray and pray rifles, nothing more or less. All these folks who go on about how accurate the AK is, well mate that would depend on ones definition of accurate, hell a blind man could hit a fig 11 target at 300 yards with an AK.
Thing is, be they straight pull or semi auto, they are fun to shoot but that for me is where it ends. The 5.56 I owned was a Norinco Type 56 (not the 2), even scoped and using handloads, well shooting paper was about all it was good for. I could never have taken it out to hunt coyotes, not unless my intention was only to scare them with a loud bang.
