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ordnance wrote:Decision made my new purchase, just have to wait on the paperwork going trough.

You lucky guy, rub it in why don't you?

Decision made my new purchase, just have to wait on the paperwork going trough.
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You lucky guy, rub it in why don't you?
Go on... buy one !
You actually have a lot of options and you can store it in Belgium, Switzerland or the Czech Rep

Froggy are you able to explain the process for me as i have a place in Prague and an FAC in the UK - thanks

Sure - It is a non-lucrative hobby so, we, British shooters can legally & safely enjoy shooting hand-guns and "3 guns" but I need to group enough shooters to keep the price as low as possible . With that in mind, we do mainly 2 different things : either static shooting or a dynamic class.

Static, we rent a lane, bring both a Czech RO to respect the local legislation and a lots of guns & ammo and shoot the hell out of it. Very much like renting a lane in Bisley but obviously the benefit to go to the Czech Rep is to shoot hand guns or semi-auto full bore at an affordable cost .

Dynamic is proper instruction/training following the precepts of the NTTC (Jeff Cooper teaching ). Both for pistols & SA rifles. The tution is provided by an ex-military instructor (who still train various LEA around the world). (IMO such training whould be mandatory to all FAC holders) . Anyway, to make it simple, it is similar to the Magpul classes in the US that we conclude with some practical scenarios/shooting multi-guns parcours similar to the US "3 guns challenges" in order to put the teaching into practice.

I organise the entire WE, including the accomodation, so the only thing you have to worry is getting to Prague. Now, if you already have a place there, no problem, we can arrange to pick you up/you meet us somewhere and we take you to the range.

I hope that answer your question . The next one should be a dynamic class mid July .

Thank you, i actually meant applying for your own firearms which i could shoot when i go over (Like your new Cz) but the above looks good as well :) and I might have to get involved in that - Thansk

Sorry, I see what you meant now - Basically a CZ club buys the gun on your behalf for which you are the sole user. You have a contract with that club preventing them to dispose of your gun without your express consent & leaves it out the scope of a liquidation should the club go bankrupt.

Your gun is stored at the club & you can use it supervised (meaning a Czech RO is present on the range) only at that club premises (you can not take it home) or an other range where the club is shooting for a competition or some event. In this regard it is very similar to a UK club's gun.

The day you want to sell it, either you find a buyer yourself or the club offers it for sale and once you have signed a waiver releasing your title to it. The transaction takes place between the club & the buyer and you receive the money.

The Cz Club charges me a monthly fee (in line with renting a safe in my UK club) to store my guns, I have 4. The club armourer even cleans & do a montly maintenance if/when I wish him to do so. That fee gives me free access to their range once/month and a discount rate if I want to shoot more often. In practice, they often let me shoot 2 days on a trot since I am not there every month.

Talking to some of my fellow UK club members I think it is similar to the arrangement they have with various other continental shooting clubs. Belgium enables you to do a day trip but that leaves you only 2 hours max on the range. Since I am a licenced French shooter I also have a French FAC & have pistols that I store in my French home.

I find the Czech option very simple & convenient . Unlike France, I do keep my UK FAC guns at my UK club so I have no hang-up about not having them under my pillow. In my experience, even with the cost of flying, the Czech Rep works out cheaper. I go there less often but when I go I do get 2 good days of much better quality shooting . It works for me :-)

In case you were enquiring about having your own licence, if you are a EEC Citizen & own a place in the CR it is possible . You will have to pass a practical test & a theorie test. You will need to speak Czech as the theoretical exam you will have to answer 30 questions (taken out of a list of 500) without the help of a translator/interpretor.

froggy wrote:In case you were enquiring about having your own licence, if you are a EEC Citizen & own a place in the CR it is possible . You will have to pass a practical test & a theorie test. You will need to speak Czech as the theoretical exam you will have to answer 30 questions (taken out of a list of 500) without the help of a translator/interpretor.

And that's no small challenge in itself, Czech seems a fairly hard language to learn. Although as of next month we may no longer be EEC citizens.

+1, It's probably the hardest vlavic language to learn ...
As a member of a NATO country, Brits could still apply for a Czech FAC even if we left the EU.

Thank you I will need to speak to the local club (Short walk from where the flat is) Paul