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Re: X-Craft found?
Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 3:41 pm
by bobbob
Re: X-Craft found?
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 4:01 pm
by Jenks
bobbob..
Thanks for posting that. I have just found out from a mutual friend that the ladies maiden name was Cameron. There is most definitely a likeness to the chap in the piece you posted. Also I recall seeing a little water colour of a midget submarine in what looked like a Loch or Fiord in the ladies house.
Did you notice in the write up of Acting Leading Seaman Magennis VC that he died in 'needy circumstances' I find that very sad.
Jenks
Re: X-Craft found?
Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:16 pm
by Polchraine
Jenks wrote:bobbob..
Thanks for posting that. I have just found out from a mutual friend that the ladies maiden name was Cameron. There is most definitely a likeness to the chap in the piece you posted. Also I recall seeing a little water colour of a midget submarine in what looked like a Loch or Fiord in the ladies house.
Did you notice in the write up of Acting Leading Seaman Magennis VC that he died in 'needy circumstances' I find that very sad.
Jenks
Magennis was almost "hated" by both his community and the local authorities. He was a Catholic serving in the British Royal Navy! The local council put up an almost invisible plaque and probably other Catholics turned against him as he was a "traitor".
Re: X-Craft found?
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:19 am
by Jenks
Polchraine wrote:Jenks wrote:bobbob..
Thanks for posting that. I have just found out from a mutual friend that the ladies maiden name was Cameron. There is most definitely a likeness to the chap in the piece you posted. Also I recall seeing a little water colour of a midget submarine in what looked like a Loch or Fiord in the ladies house.
Did you notice in the write up of Acting Leading Seaman Magennis VC that he died in 'needy circumstances' I find that very sad.
Jenks
Magennis was almost "hated" by both his community and the local authorities. He was a Catholic serving in the British Royal Navy! The local council put up an almost invisible plaque and probably other Catholics turned against him as he was a "traitor".
Polchraine..
Further to your post above..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/1999/oct/09/johnmullin
What sad story a truly brave man. He derserved better.
Jenks
Re: X-Craft found?
Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:10 pm
by ChrisW
Hello Christel
There are in fact two XT submarines in Aberlay bay. They are far far out in the bay, very close to the low tide mark and are only safe to visit an hour either side of low tide. Most of the hulls are gone, but the ribs and some of the internals and steering gear are still visible.
Here is a link to some photos I took of the XT craft a couple of years ago -
http://e-group.uk.net/forum/showthread.php?t=7826
Re: X-Craft found?
Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:17 pm
by Christel
Didn't know there were two, they look like animal remains. Nor did I know they were used as training targets. My initial reaction when I saw the picture of the one I thought was there was that it was people taking souvenirs and the salt water of course.
The picture of the water freezing, at first I thought the lines were sand worms.
Lovely pictures, thank you for that.

Re: X-Craft found?
Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:21 pm
by ChrisW
You are very welcome … if only you knew a man with a shed who could restore an XT for you?
Re: X-Craft found?
Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:22 pm
by ovenpaa
Good pictures Chris, I cringe when I see such pictures, these things are part of our heritage.
It is strange to see the sea frozen over. Many years ago I was walking by a frozen Fjord with Christel and the wolf, I was throwing stones for the dog and of course skipped one out across the Fjord which the wolf went for and promptly went through the ice. Oops, but she surfaced again and crashed her way back to us, with the stone of course!
Re: X-Craft found?
Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:28 pm
by Christel
I do know a man with a shed...no room for one of those though :lol:
Nice thought.