Blackstuff wrote:techguy wrote:
A quote from the F4i forum for the 2012 PSG season.
UKPSA - 61 Shooters & 4 Matches
F4i - 168 Shooters & 8 Matches
??? I've shot 13 UKPSA matches this year, missed at least 8 and there's still 2 to go. I know UKPSA has its short comings but the schism between 4islands and them has blame on both sides and 99% of it is politics/personal problems and nothing to do with shooting
Hi Mark ?
The numbers quoted above are a direct comparison of the number of championship matches held & the competitors entered used by each organisation to crown a champion(s).
If you have shot 13 matches this year I assume your really talking about club level shoots, if so one f4i club alone (Worcester) held 12 practical shotgun matches all by itself, but F4i does not count those or our other affiliated clubs home matches & we don't expect UKPSA does either, they are simply matches held at affiliated clubs that we & the UKPSA do not collect the scores from, unless your counting the postal stuff which is so open to inconsistency between venues its laughable, but thats up to them.
You say it has nothing to do with shooting but Im sorry to inform you that it does, & as for "blame on both sides" Im not sure what you mean but I would be happy to address any gossip/propaganda you have told in order to set the record straight.
In truth the guys from f4i just wanted to open things up & grow the sport, but it became clear to them that this was unlikely to happen anytime soon under the current UKPSA leadership, so several of them who were on the UKPSA council either resigned or refused the invitations to return to the UKPSA council after the 2010 AGM & formed a new group.
After a very successful first season four4islands attempted to assist others in running a 4gun match at Bisley last February, this with the full support of the NRA, when a certain UKPSA council member & at the time also the serving NRA Target shotgun rep, wrote a letter casting aspersions on the credibility of the F4i contingent involved & tried to get the match cancelled, making threats to involve the relevant authorities if his view of how things should be done were not adhered too, this is not the best way to promote shooting in the UK in my opinion, & If you would like a copy of the letter then do ask around at Bisley Im sure someone will send you a copy.
The match went ahead despite the attempts to de-rail it & he subsequently lost his seat when it was next contested, the match had a great write up in the NRA journal & the pictures of four4islands shotgun stages made the centre spread of the magazine, in fact it was such a success that it is being done again this coming February at Bisley & this time with full support from the New NRA Target Shotgun Rep.
Then there is the nasty business of the UKPSA throwing out one of its members (who just happened to be thanked by name in the NRA journal article) without providing him with any evidence as to why, leaving everyone to assume he had done something very bad & they have still not released the evidence or the minutes from the meeting that the council held in secret to expel him.
I suggest that UKPSA members ask the council for access too that evidence & also access to the minutes of the meeting, as it is against the UKPSA constitution to hold meetings in secret & to withhold any relevant minutes from its members.
There is much more but we would be here all night & to be honest most people just want to shoot without having to jump through hoops......
See you on the range tongueout
4I
