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OK cool, see you there if you can make it.

Yes I think you'll like it...

Cheers,

Craig.

Lots of good advice above. For my two penneth, I would say don't worry too much about cant at the moment, although it's not normally desirable, it won't effect your the groups you are getting here.. All you need is to be consistent with it. Many top prone match shooters shoot with a considerable cant, often having a spirit level adjusted so it's consistent. You are shooting at a fixed distance so don't need to dial in your shots at various ranges using a ballistic chart/calculator, this is where cant becomes a problem as the further you raise your sights from your initial zero position, the more lateral error will creep in.

The Annie 54 is a well tried and tested target rifle and usually performs very well, although, like all .22LR rifles, you must experiment with different ammunition, the most expensive is not always the best.

The bull on a 100yd NSRA target is, at a guess about an inch and inward gauging. A good shot in fair weather would probably reckon to score 95-100, say about an inch and a half for a 10 shot group. This is shot with iron sights and just a sling, the rifle not rested.

I don't think changing the scope would have any effect on group size as long as the reticule is reasonably fine. Usual problems with a scope are failing to track and return to zero but once set are usually OK.

Low left shots (with right handed shooters) are usually associated with poor trigger control/snatching/flinching although with bags front and rear this shouldn't be a problem.

This might give you food for thought. This a an extensive .22 ammunition test, out to a hundred yards, with a top quality rifle.
http://www.accurateshooter.com/guns-of- ... ison-test/

These are average group sizes of 5 x 5 shot groups. Interesting to note that the Eley Match was well ahead of the Eley Tenex at a 100 yds.

Aim for 1 inch groups and be pleased if you get them - I've never achieved consistent groups with a .22LR to equal those shot in the ammo test.

Thanks for the post. Canting is just something I'll be mindful of, I'd planned to stick a spirit level on the scope and see if I can catch myself out.

Wow that ammo test is fascinating. Seems this is the best over 100 yards with the Eley Match ammo, with an average grouping of .455 inches or a tiny 1.156 cm, now that I'd be happy with. clapclap



You've got to love his setup.



I'll add some Eley match to my ammo list for this week, it will be interesting to see how well my Anschutz shoots each one.

Thanks for the info!

Cheers,

Craig.

HALODIN wrote:Yes I agree with your first point, I suppose as long as your position is consistent it doesn't matter where it is, you'd just zero your scope accordingly. What do people use on their stocks to guarantee consistent cheek weld?

That's interesting. Wind flags were mentioned the other day, but apart from seeing which way the wind is coming, I'm not sure how you read it's speed, unless certain flags of a certain weight only flap around under certain wind conditions.

RWS R50 was mentioned as well, I believe it was termed the Gucci of .22 match ammo. I'll probably try some of that next. What grouping are you getting @ 100 yards with your Anschutz?

Dougan wrote:I've been having a dabble at long range shooting with my Anschutz 54, and am also using a relatively cheep scope - Not getting the eye relief and/or position correct and consistent can definitely make a few inches difference at 100 yards...

...also you said 'light wind'?...I've been amazed the difference the wind makes with .22 at 100 yards and beyond - Especially with vertical movement... e.g. a moderate wind coming towards you from 1/2 O'clock could easily push the bullet to the low left a couple of inches...

As for ammo - What you're using is good...RWS R50 is also well regarded.

Now you've shown your target, I don't have to be so polite (4" at 100 would be large group...but after 9 months still wouldn't of been too bad) - You seem to be doing fine...there's not much I can add to all the good stuff already said...so welcome to the life of always wanting one more bullseye :cheers:

About wind flags - I've only had the normal tall flags (for full bore ranges) to go by when shooting .22 at long range...but have seen bench rest and 100m prone shooters, use all kinds (homemade/custom) of small wind flags set about 1m off the ground at intervals down the range.

Thanks! :cheers:

Yes I need to look into these wind flags, I'll see what I can dig out of the hut on Tuesday night. As a minimum it will at least show me when the wind has dropped off so I can sneak in a shot. I think one will probably do for starters though...

Dougan wrote:Now you've shown your target, I don't have to be so polite (4" at 100 would be large group...but after 9 months still wouldn't of been too bad) - You seem to be doing fine...there's not much I can add to all the good stuff already said...so welcome to the life of always wanting one more bullseye :cheers:

About wind flags - I've only had the normal tall flags (for full bore ranges) to go by when shooting .22 at long range...but have seen bench rest and 100m prone shooters, use all kinds (homemade/custom) of small wind flags set about 1m off the ground at intervals down the range.

HALODIN wrote:

Thanks! :cheers:

Yes I need to look into these wind flags, I'll see what I can dig out of the hut on Tuesday night. As a minimum it will at least show me when the wind has dropped off so I can sneak in a shot. I think one will probably do for starters though...

Just a piece of ribbon on a wire coat-hanger will get you started.

Thanks!