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Re: A Society Disarmed
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:55 pm
by johngarnett
If this is too much information for GCHQ & Prism to know about, then Mods, please delete
For those who didn't know the hand-in process of the legalised theft....
Before the actual handgun ban date we were sent a catalogue of all things shooting that could be claimed for and were told to list all we intended to hand-in, with the value. Stock pistols were listed but anything 'different' was to be valued by certain RFD's. The book had, besides handguns of all makes, dies, powders, bullets, holsters & belts and some tools.
Well, here in rural England there began a underground precision machine industry. We began turning out sizing and seater dies from bar stock with a hole drilled through it and painted any shade of red, green or black! A coach bolt was the top punch. I recall £8 each! I would hate to have seen the end result :lol:
I had a Colt 1911 with a long spring guide that required a 2" piece of wire with a 1/4" 'L' on the end to secure the spring during disassembly.
Well, my wife had some hair grips..... say no more? During the hand-in interview I was asked what these were.
'Specialist disassembly tools' was my reply.
'These are f***ing hair grips' was the officer's retort.
I again replied, 'no, specialist disassembly tools'.
'Why 12?'
'In case I lose one'
Looking under his eyebrows he placed 12 'L' shaped hair grips in a bag and sealed and signed. I think £6 each?
Sorry tax payers sign92
JohnG :cornwall:
Re: A Society Disarmed
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:27 pm
by paxtond
johngarnett wrote:If this is too much information for GCHQ & Prism to know about, then Mods, please delete
For those who didn't know the hand-in process of the legalised theft....
Before the actual handgun ban date we were sent a catalogue of all things shooting that could be claimed for and were told to list all we intended to hand-in, with the value. Stock pistols were listed but anything 'different' was to be valued by certain RFD's. The book had, besides handguns of all makes, dies, powders, bullets, holsters & belts and some tools.
Well, here in rural England there began a underground precision machine industry. We began turning out sizing and seater dies from bar stock with a hole drilled through it and painted any shade of red, green or black! A coach bolt was the top punch. I recall £8 each! I would hate to have seen the end result :lol:
I had a Colt 1911 with a long spring guide that required a 2" piece of wire with a 1/4" 'L' on the end to secure the spring during disassembly.
Well, my wife had some hair grips..... say no more? During the hand-in interview I was asked what these were.
'Specialist disassembly tools' was my reply.
'These are f***ing hair grips' was the officer's retort.
I again replied, 'no, specialist disassembly tools'.
'Why 12?'
'In case I lose one'
Looking under his eyebrows he placed 12 'L' shaped hair grips in a bag and sealed and signed. I think £6 each?
Sorry tax payers sign92
JohnG :cornwall:
I've been told similar stories of progressive presses going all night long without any powder being used and people claiming for huge amount of dud ammo :lol:
Re: A Society Disarmed
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:57 pm
by PaulR
I was told by the Police to put the Standard Wood grips back on my competition Revolver and claim for the Hogue grips separately.
Another thing I did was to engrave my name and telephone number with the words "Confiscated in the UK" under the grips of my nearly new S&W 5906 9mm. At that time we were convinced that some of our stuff would end up in other countries.
I heard about another practice which was to shoot overloaded cartridges through some of their Glocks, 92Fs etc to try and bulge or weaken the barrel, this was in case they were taken into use by the authorities. I didn't condone that because the likely victims were in no way to blame for the whole surrender.
I last saw my Competition Revolver being dry fired (something I would never do) by a pimply young Policeman zzzzom who said he was an armed response officer. He said, "cor this is nice" and my first instinct was to tell him to stop as he could break the firing pin then I realised that fairly soon it would be part of a Manhole cover and kept my mouth shut.
I did hear a rumour that all the confiscated stuff was being stored in case a European Challenge was ever mounted but that was probably just Urban Legend.
Re: A Society Disarmed
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:01 pm
by johngarnett
paxtond wrote:johngarnett wrote:If this is too much information for GCHQ & Prism to know about, then Mods, please delete
For those who didn't know the hand-in process of the legalised theft....
Before the actual handgun ban date we were sent a catalogue of all things shooting that could be claimed for and were told to list all we intended to hand-in, with the value. Stock pistols were listed but anything 'different' was to be valued by certain RFD's. The book had, besides handguns of all makes, dies, powders, bullets, holsters & belts and some tools.
Well, here in rural England there began a underground precision machine industry. We began turning out sizing and seater dies from bar stock with a hole drilled through it and painted any shade of red, green or black! A coach bolt was the top punch. I recall £8 each! I would hate to have seen the end result :lol:
I had a Colt 1911 with a long spring guide that required a 2" piece of wire with a 1/4" 'L' on the end to secure the spring during disassembly.
Well, my wife had some hair grips..... say no more? During the hand-in interview I was asked what these were.
'Specialist disassembly tools' was my reply.
'These are f***ing hair grips' was the officer's retort.
I again replied, 'no, specialist disassembly tools'.
'Why 12?'
'In case I lose one'
Looking under his eyebrows he placed 12 'L' shaped hair grips in a bag and sealed and signed. I think £6 each?
Sorry tax payers sign92
JohnG :cornwall:
I've been told similar stories of progressive presses going all night long without any powder being used and people claiming for huge amount of dud ammo :lol:
Oh! R E A L L Y! Never have believed that could have happened

Re: A Society Disarmed
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:07 pm
by johngarnett
I've never really felt like talking about this since it happened but now we have started, I may have a word with a local dealer who was 'involved', I believe, a bit more than some dealers were with their disposal.
If I don't transgress the Official Secrets Act I let you know some more
JohnG :cornwall: .
Re: A Society Disarmed
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:41 pm
by Steve E
A Large quantity of Browning Hi-Power, Sig 226s and Glock 17s ended up at Donnington (the repository of MoD Small arms).
I have evidence of this as the Hi-Power that I had surrendered ended up on the inventory of a large RAF Station (it was issued to me to compete in Service Pistol matches). It (un)fortunately suffered a catastrophic failure on the range one afternoon.
