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Tony-c wrote:I love the Armsan a612s. Great value and looks every bit as good as any far more expensive shotgun if you like to look good.

I think I'd agree with that, bought a 612, tried at our club Christmas shoot, reckon it's a bit more consistent with the pattern then my well used Baikal. I'm not that good at clays, so spending a lot on a really nice OU would be a waste really.