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Re: new turkish 12 bore lever action shottie?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:14 am
by Sixshot6
Blackstuff wrote:
Sixshot6 wrote:
StangGT wrote:Could someone please clarify the UK legality of these? Do you need to be a member of the western shooting club or could anyone with a s1 shotgun slot buy one, with the barrel less than 24"?

Cheers
Are you referring to this gun I've started the thread with? Its a section one firearm. The 24 inch barrel limit as per the 1988 amendment act only affects and this is the big key here ONLY AFFECTS SGC shotguns and pumps and semis on FAC's. Any other shotguns on FACs such as single break barrels, double barrels, bolt actions or Lever actions or even anything that is none of those (who knows what people will come up in the future) are not restricted to a 24 inch barrel with OAL of 40 inches. the 12/24 or 30/60cm rule now applies like any other long gun. So long as your club has the facilities for shotgun including the use of slugs, you do not need to be a member of western shooting or IPSC or anything else. Just your club facilities are the key. Though you might get bored shooting on your lonesome and then decide to give IPSC a go. As its a modern design unlike the 1887 repro's you can't use it in western shooting. But open* Division practical shotgun is good to go.
*Standard Manual division - There is no minimum barrel length for IPSC matches whcih would put this gun into Open division (there is a maximum OAL restriction for Open and Modified though)

As said, you wouldn't need to tell the FLD about the specific shotgun when applying for the slot, you would just ask for a 12bore multishot shotgun slot (or lever-action multishot shotgun if your FLD insists on action type 8-) ). It would be getting your RFD to not wet their knickers when they saw the length of the barrel which would be the issue lol
Living up Durham police force... I mean farce you should know what happens when the hard of thinking get involved. Incidentally how would they actually know the barrel length anyway?

Re: new turkish 12 bore lever action shottie?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:44 pm
by Blackstuff
Only on inspection at renewal potnetially. Even then i doubt most FEO's would even think to check/know what they were looking at.

However before you got to that you'd have had to have an RFD willing to import/sell you one, which is highly unlikely.

Plus the fear of a 5-10yr stretch at HM pleasure puts off most lol

Re: new turkish 12 bore lever action shottie?

Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:57 pm
by Sixshot6
Blackstuff wrote:Only on inspection at renewal potnetially. Even then i doubt most FEO's would even think to check/know what they were looking at.

However before you got to that you'd have had to have an RFD willing to import/sell you one, which is highly unlikely.

Plus the fear of a 5-10yr stretch at HM pleasure puts off most lol
Why would it be unlikely? The 1887 lever actions are imported and sold with 22 inch barrels so its perfectly legal to own use and import. The horse has been beaten to death Blackstuff. The 24/40 rule only applies to SGC shotties and pumps and semi's on FAC's. Everything else has the normal 12/24 rule. So with a 20 inch barrel that should give a good bit over the 12/24 rule and be perfectly legal. Then again remembering the early debacle involving LBR's and tape measures anything is possible. But precedence is on a potential RFD's side here. Someone with more legal knowledge can chime in, but it seems clearly to be legal from every possible angle (I've seen 9mm bolt action garden gun shotties with 15 inch barrels before this day is over also).