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Re: Recommend a bolt action .22LR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:50 pm
by Kungfugerbil
ratters wrote:Slightly off topic, but how do people NOT get possibles shooting benchrest with a scope?
He's got a point. That's why rimfire benchrest competitions aren't shot on the NSRA Bm2510 cards as in TG's pic - everyone at even a modest level would get 100 every time at 25yds. The cards used in a lot of leagues (eg Yorks) have a central pip to knock out for +1 so a card is scored out of 110.

Re: Recommend a bolt action .22LR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 5:54 pm
by Kungfugerbil
TattooedGun wrote:There's nothing wrong with either of my rifles. i wouldn't call the Sako finnfire a ratty old sporter, either.
I refer the honourable gentleman to his own signature...

The winking smiley should have suggested that was tongue in cheek - obviously both are excellent rifles. The fact remains however that if you put a scope and bipod on the Anschutz it absolutely should outshoot the Sako.

Re: Recommend a bolt action .22LR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 6:24 pm
by dodgyrog
Kungfugerbil wrote:
TattooedGun wrote:There's nothing wrong with either of my rifles. i wouldn't call the Sako finnfire a ratty old sporter, either.
I refer the honourable gentleman to his own signature...

The winking smiley should have suggested that was tongue in cheek - obviously both are excellent rifles. The fact remains however that if you put a scope and bipod on the Anschutz it absolutely should outshoot the Sako.
Really! I wonder what evidence you have to that supposed fact?

Re: Recommend a bolt action .22LR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:39 pm
by meles meles
Don't confuse sheeple with facts if they have already made up their minds, dodgy...

Re: Recommend a bolt action .22LR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:26 pm
by Geek
tackb wrote:
dromia wrote:The OP has specifically said that he doesn't want a Sako.
Or a wooden stock .

Thereby ruling out the finest 22rf ever built (P94s) which leads me to conclude he's a fool .
Personal choice, if we all liked the same things; wouldn't life be boring!

Re: Recommend a bolt action .22LR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:53 pm
by TattooedGun
Kungfugerbil wrote:
ratters wrote:Slightly off topic, but how do people NOT get possibles shooting benchrest with a scope?
He's got a point. That's why rimfire benchrest competitions aren't shot on the NSRA Bm2510 cards as in TG's pic - everyone at even a modest level would get 100 every time at 25yds. The cards used in a lot of leagues (eg Yorks) have a central pip to knock out for +1 so a card is scored out of 110.
Give it a go.
The Hendon League is shot on BM2510 cards, although are changing to the new 25 spot NSRA benchrest cards.

The top division may be 100's almost every time (My dad won Div 1 of Hendon last year with 18 straight posses) but came third in the NSRA division 1 dropping only 2 points all season.

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If it's so easy, give it a go. We get all sorts of prone shooters thinking it's a piece of cake, until they actually try it.

All of the technique of prone (position, breathing, trigger control etc) come into play just as much in benchrest, the only real benefit is the fact that you can actually see what you're pulling the trigger on.

Where am I on that table. I'm middle of the pack in Div. 6.

It is harder than it looks.

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NSRA Results:
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The best in the country, not your average "modest shooters".

Hardly 100 every time...

Re: Recommend a bolt action .22LR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:05 pm
by Geek
TattooedGun wrote:
Kungfugerbil wrote:
tackb wrote:sako finnfire range
* Wood stock
* Sako
* Not as good as the alternatives

Yep, you've hit the nail on the head there.
I beg to differ. My sako finnfire shoots easily as well as my anschutz 2213. It's also magazine fed, ready for scope mount, bipod easily mountable via the sling button (as opposed to a euro rail which the Harris #6 adapter is notoriously hard to acquire) and it's great fun.

I think the point here is that he's writing off one of the possibly best actions available sub £1000 because he doesn't like wood and has had a bad Sako Quad.

The OP mentioned plinking and target shooting, and whilst I do love my target rifle for bipod and sling shooting, it's not what I would call a plinker.

When we asked for clarification of what was wanted, no information was offered, however we can reasonably expect that an all out target rifle is not in the vein of what the OP is after considering it is to replace a sako Quad. (again, magazine fed, sporting style rifle).
You are correct about the bad experience with Sako, one replaced under warranty (bolt couldn't be inserted!), the replacement I am unhappy about; this has just put me off Sako as a brand. I am hoping to do a deal with the shop for the replacement (probably CZ or Ruger).

Re: Recommend a bolt action .22LR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:08 pm
by TattooedGun
Geek wrote:
TattooedGun wrote: I beg to differ. My sako finnfire shoots easily as well as my anschutz 2213. It's also magazine fed, ready for scope mount, bipod easily mountable via the sling button (as opposed to a euro rail which the Harris #6 adapter is notoriously hard to acquire) and it's great fun.

I think the point here is that he's writing off one of the possibly best actions available sub £1000 because he doesn't like wood and has had a bad Sako Quad.

The OP mentioned plinking and target shooting, and whilst I do love my target rifle for bipod and sling shooting, it's not what I would call a plinker.

When we asked for clarification of what was wanted, no information was offered, however we can reasonably expect that an all out target rifle is not in the vein of what the OP is after considering it is to replace a sako Quad. (again, magazine fed, sporting style rifle).
You are correct about the bad experience with Sako, one replaced under warranty (bolt couldn't be inserted!), the replacement I am unhappy about; this has just put me off Sako as a brand. I am hoping to do a deal with the shop for the replacement (probably CZ or Ruger).
Again, might not be your cup of tea as it's a wooden stock, but the CZ 452 that the rifle club bought for benchrest shooting out shoots the majority of our members bolt action rifles of the same style, other than the finnfires.

Not bad rifles, and I'm sure they do a synthetic stock if you truly must find one :p

Re: Recommend a bolt action .22LR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:25 pm
by Kungfugerbil
TattooedGun wrote:If it's so easy, give it a go. We get all sorts of prone shooters thinking it's a piece of cake, until they actually try it.
I did. We shoot based on these rules and cards:

http://www.yorkshiresmallbore.org.uk/re ... chrest.pdf

This summer I used the club martini for a one-off have-a-go session and shot two cards - a 99+4 and 100+1. I'm putting together a BR rig from a spare Anschutz over the winter as its great fun - I've spent the last few weeks fabricating a front rest.

Re: Recommend a bolt action .22LR

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:33 pm
by Kungfugerbil
TattooedGun wrote: NSRA Results:
The best in the country, not your average "modest shooters"
But I note that the person who won class B went clear - 12 rounds, 100 every time. This reinforces why the short range rifle targets are not suitable for benchrest, yet the NSRA are persisting with them for postal comps this year it seems?