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Kungfugerbil wrote:

jack1 wrote:If you look on the Browning web sight you will see "Buck mark rifle" and "Buckmark pistol". The Buckmark pistol we have here is made from the rifle which is clear to see. Both have been 'around' for years long before our idiotic rules required a rifle to be converted to a pistol.

Actually the BuckMark - which is a pistol - came into being in the early 80s but can trace its lineage back to the Colt Woodsman of a hundred years ago.

The carbine came into existence in 2001. It's quite obviously a pistol with a long barrel and a stock attached.

Yet Browning call it a rifle

jack1 wrote:

Kungfugerbil wrote:

jack1 wrote:If you look on the Browning web sight you will see "Buck mark rifle" and "Buckmark pistol". The Buckmark pistol we have here is made from the rifle which is clear to see. Both have been 'around' for years long before our idiotic rules required a rifle to be converted to a pistol.

Actually the BuckMark - which is a pistol - came into being in the early 80s but can trace its lineage back to the Colt Woodsman of a hundred years ago.

The carbine came into existence in 2001. It's quite obviously a pistol with a long barrel and a stock attached.

Yet Browning call it a rifle

But the first line on Browning website says:

"Based on the popular and proven Buck Mark Pistol"

Also the rifles that are on the browning website little resemble the versions that we get over here once converted.



With no foregrip, or "stock" as shown on the browning website as they are converted to adhere to our archaic laws. So drawing conclusions based off of the Browning Website is futile since it's not the same firearm once it gets to the end user.

jack1 wrote:Yet Browning call it a rifle

They can call it what they want. Sticking a wig and heels on Michael Gove doesn't make him Playmate of the year.

Kungfugerbil wrote:They can call it what they want. Sticking a wig and heels on Michael Gove doesn't make him Playmate of the year.

Did you have to? I'm trying to eat here...

Kungfugerbil wrote:

jack1 wrote:If you look on the Browning web sight you will see "Buck mark rifle" and "Buckmark pistol". The Buckmark pistol we have here is made from the rifle which is clear to see. Both have been 'around' for years long before our idiotic rules required a rifle to be converted to a pistol.

Actually the BuckMark - which is a pistol - came into being in the early 80s but can trace its lineage back to the Colt Woodsman of a hundred years ago.

The carbine came into existence in 2001. It's quite obviously a pistol with a long barrel and a stock attached.

Browning have two Buckmark products shown on their web site a pistol and a rifle the latter which through a process of ballistic metamorphosis has become (in the UK) the Buckmark long barrel pistol whilst in the USA it is the Browning Buckmark rifle.

jack1 wrote:Browning have two Buckmark products shown on their web site a pistol and a rifle the latter which through a process of ballistic metamorphosis has become (in the UK) the Buckmark long barrel pistol whilst in the USA it is the Browning Buckmark rifle.

Are you aware you've already answered this post?

Your original beef with the BuckMark was that it was somehow 'not proper' as it was a rifle not a pistol. I've explained that it is in every sense a pistol and always has been - the rifle is nothing but a long barreled pistol with a stock. The UK gunsmiths take the long barreled pistol with a stock and cut off the stock leaving...a long barreled pistol.

Is this a car or a plane?



Ballistic metamorphosis

Kungfugerbil wrote:

jack1 wrote:Browning have two Buckmark products shown on their web site a pistol and a rifle the latter which through a process of ballistic metamorphosis has become (in the UK) the Buckmark long barrel pistol whilst in the USA it is the Browning Buckmark rifle.

Are you aware you've already answered this post?

Your original beef with the BuckMark was that it was somehow 'not proper' as it was a rifle not a pistol. I've explained that it is in every sense a pistol and always has been - the rifle is nothing but a long barreled pistol with a stock. The UK gunsmiths take the long barreled pistol with a stock and cut off the stock leaving...a long barreled pistol.

Is this a car or a plane?



Ballistic metamorphosis

I do not have a "beef with the Buckmark" rifle to UK legal pistol conversion and I do know how the whole exercise works and how the conversion carried out amazingly as well as you do but I do not need to use sarcasm to make the point.if you had paid attention to this whole debate you would have learnt I did actually own one and shot it very successfully in competition. However, you will not be told will you? Browning make clear in their web site what is the Buckmark rifle and the Buckmark pistol. You seem to suggest your opinion is more qualified than all others contributing which of course it is not and I am very happy to compare my experience, qualifications and achievements in shooting with yours if I did not have better things to do. The matter from my point of view is now closed, others of course may wish to continue . You have a very good week. Jack

jack1 wrote: The matter from my point of view is now closed

Good, I'm glad I was able to clear it up for you. You're welcome.

Handbags can now be put away ladies as this thread is now locked!