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Re: S Class shooting - a discussion
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:26 pm
by spud
ovenpaa wrote:I would suggest a CoF 2+15 and/or 2+20 and targets ICFRA standard F Class.
FCLASS.JPG
For the animal sized targets something similar, what are the standard animal targets scored at?
Thats not the Uk target sizes for F class Dave as at 300 yards the v bull would be in the region of 38-40 mm
Re: S Class shooting - a discussion
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:36 pm
by kennyc
ovenpaa wrote:I would suggest a CoF 2+15 and/or 2+20 and targets ICFRA standard F Class.
FCLASS.JPG
For the animal sized targets something similar, what are the standard animal targets scored at?
if I understand you correctly then thats 2 sighters and then 15/20 shots over a period (of?) thats going to get light sporter barrels pretty hot

and if its going to be based on sporting practice then 6-9 X mag would be nearer to the mark :P
Re: S Class shooting - a discussion
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:38 pm
by spud
kennyc wrote:ovenpaa wrote:I would suggest a CoF 2+15 and/or 2+20 and targets ICFRA standard F Class.
FCLASS.JPG
For the animal sized targets something similar, what are the standard animal targets scored at?
if I understand you correctly then thats 2 sighters and then 15/20 shots over a period (of?) thats going to get light sporter barrels pretty hot

usually 45 secs for each shot but weve tried string shooting and its all over in 3 1/2 mins
Re: S Class shooting - a discussion
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:59 pm
by Sandgroper
ovenpaa wrote:
For the animal sized targets something similar, what are the standard animal targets scored at?
I just checked the life sized White tailed deer targets I have and they have two kill zones - one 2 inch and one 4 inch. The rabbit has a 1 inch kill zone. These are hunting practice targets, not scoring.
I'll see if I have any with scoring on them.
Re: S Class shooting - a discussion
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:28 pm
by TattooedGun
I'd be interested in this also... however, i'm in the camp of "no rear bags" - I don't see the point, and due to the intended nature of the firearms and the spirit of the competition (all about the shooter, not the equipment) - a rear bag seems like additional handicapping where its not needed... you wouldnt carry a rear bag out stalking, would you?

Re: S Class shooting - a discussion
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:17 pm
by Dougan
I was looking at the Phoenix scores - and having seen the various rifle set-ups there, was wondering about a handicap system?
For example:
1 point per detail deducted for every 1kg over 5kg (total rifle/pod/scope weight)
1 point for every 1" over standard (to be decided) bipod width.
1 point for each extra magnification over 12x on the scope.
5 points for using a rear-bag.
Someone who knows a bit about F/TR and statistics could get the numbers right - in a way that each shooter could weigh up the pros and cons of a set-up, according to their strengths/weaknesses, but ultimately encourage the use of the lightest and simplest set-up.....
Re: S Class shooting - a discussion
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:38 pm
by John25
We are not talking about a world championships here guys, if I have Ovenpaa right, he wants to shoot bog standard sporting and service type rifles, with just a bipod.
A friendly 'competition' without the trappings. He mentioned 'honesty'
We shoot for our own satisfaction, if someone wants to 'cheat' by using heavy barrel, and other 'tweaks' let him/her get on with it.
Rules means judges/scritineers, protests, animosity; do we want that?
Why not let it evolve and see where it goes?
:cheers:
Re: S Class shooting - a discussion
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:00 pm
by Dougan
John25 wrote:Rules means judges/scritineers, protests, animosity; do we want that?
Not always - one of my clubs uses handicaps for most of the cups; it spreads the silverware around the club, and even gives the 'newbies' a chance....
Anyway it was just a thought...I like the idea of a sporter/lite F class

Re: S Class shooting - a discussion
Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:38 pm
by John25
Me too, i'm still thinking of putting some glass on my number five!
:lol:
Re: S Class shooting - a discussion
Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:26 am
by TattooedGun
One thing I was thinking... We don't have F-Class targets at my local range (Kingsbury)... so what would happen in this situation? We only have the "old boys" TR sized targets...