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I was waiting for that.

Steve wrote:
Agreed,but not sure if Bisley would allow you to shoot on horseback while wearing an eye patch.

The Samuri do an amazing sport/training, where they shoot targets with a short-bow while at full gallop (reins between the teeth )

...So why not at the Phoenix :?: Can you imagine galloping down Stickledown, shooting 'T&P mounted' :shock: - the danger to the horse would be minimal...and you could always put a tin hat on it to be sure....

Alpha1 wrote:
I am curious to know why you would want to try and shoot a 357 under lever rifle out to 100 and 200yds.
You are not going to get any kind of accuracy are they the only full bore rifles you own.

You must be joking!

I own a winchester under lever in 357 there is no way I could shoot this rifle at 100 or 200 yds with the standard sights with any degree of accuracy. I will shoot the middle out of a target at 25yds free standing with home loads but no way 100 or 200 yds.
So educate me Rog.

This is a problem I have, I have owned and shot service rifles with battle sights and my eyes are just not up to it. These days the only rifle of this type that I have is my P14 with a brindles trigger box and fine vernier rear sight which invariably sports a very discreet smaller rear aperture. As it is non standard I cannot shoot it in SR comps but I will keep it on the off chance that an Aldis 'scope shows up on a day I can afford it.

Having said this I was talking to an RCO at the Phoenix who shoots .22LR at 200 yards plus against normal targets, half the fun of shooting is getting the absolute maximum accuracy out of a rifle and that includes the shooter, even if that just means learning to shoot 3MOA instead of 6MOA at 100 yards.

ovenpaa wrote:... half the fun of shooting is getting the absolute maximum accuracy out of a rifle and that includes the shooter, even if that just means learning to shoot 3MOA instead of 6MOA at 100 yards.

Bang on!

Alpha1 wrote:

Alpha1 wrote:
I am curious to know why you would want to try and shoot a 357 under lever rifle out to 100 and 200yds.
You are not going to get any kind of accuracy are they the only full bore rifles you own.

You must be joking!

I own a winchester under lever in 357 there is no way I could shoot this rifle at 100 or 200 yds with the standard sights with any degree of accuracy. I will shoot the middle out of a target at 25yds free standing with home loads but no way 100 or 200 yds.
So educate me Rog.

I have a scope on my Marlin, and personally prefer it for disruptive pattern targets - but had open sights on my Winny - I put squared off v sights (like you get on an a target air pistol), which were good for round targets (aiming below the black), and were effective at 100 yrds.

If you want to set a lever action up for 200/300, you can put an adjustable rear 'tang' sight on, and put an aperture on the front....

...or use a scope.

Now watch Sim G get wound up!

Not accurate at 100 yrds?

Last week I took an 18" barreled .357 Marlin up to Scotland for a customer for vermin destruction, he wanted me to work up a load for him. I loaded up a series of rounds with VV N110 and we popped out to my testing range which is a tad over 100 yrds. The rifle was fitted with standard buckhorn rear and bead fore sight. I started shooting groups and the first three of the 10 rounds in the first batch were slightly low and right of point of aim but grouped together. The customer said "see if you can hit that rabbit just to the right of the target". I held off and let the fourth round go, smacking flopsy in the back of the head. The customer was impressed.

We eventually settled on a stiffer load of 12 gns VV N110 under a semi jacketed HP bullet that grouped even better than that bunny bashing initial load.

So pistol calibre U/Ls are accurate, there is no reason why they shouldn't be. The main reason that U/Ls have been so successful is that within their range envelope they are very effective meat getters, they are also handy and fast firing just what you need for deer shooting in woods.

To me a U/L in 30 - 30 calibre is a match made in heaven a very fine 200yrd deer rifle and who needs more range than that for shooting deer in this country?

Does someone not like scopes on lever actions...

This is mine!

Dougan wrote:
The Samuri do an amazing sport/training, where they shoot targets with a short-bow while at full gallop (reins between the teeth )

...So why not at the Phoenix :?: Can you imagine galloping down Stickledown, shooting 'T&P mounted' :shock: - the danger to the horse would be minimal...and you could always put a tin hat on it to be sure....

Im still thinking about levering the action one handed Terminator 2 style while riding a motorbike.Wonder is Bisley or Barton road would allow this?