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Re: FAC timescales for Thames Valley?

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:04 am
by davidh195
Pinguino wrote:Latest edition of BSAC Magazine March/April 2017 has an up to date chart of days taken by main forces for FAC/SGC Grant, Renewal and Variation - it doesn't make for good reading if you are in Cumbria, Hampshire Kent, Lancs, Lincolnshire, Thames Valley Warwickshire or West Mercia - absolutely shameful ..!!
Its certainly not accurate a club member has had his FAC application in since before Christmas he's over the 60 days quoted for Northant's already & has not even been contacted yet.

David

Re: FAC timescales for Thames Valley?

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:55 am
by Iain
I would also question the accuracy of this BASC performance chart.

Cambridgeshire reports 14 days for a variation - I submitted my FAC for a simple variation in mid-December. FEO contacted me on Jan 6th to say he would be processing it. I'm still waiting.

Judging by what's being reported here and elsewhere, if ever anything deserves the title 'LA LA Land', this report is it.

The snottogram gets sent today.

Iain

Re: FAC timescales for Thames Valley?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:43 am
by IainWR
Is BASC quoting average (mean, median or modal) times or maxima?

Re: FAC timescales for Thames Valley?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:49 am
by Airbrush
My fac runs out today, nothing in the post from TVP despite all the paper work done months ago.

Re: FAC timescales for Thames Valley?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:00 pm
by Rockhopper
Watch out you don't up in illegal possession then.

Re: FAC timescales for Thames Valley?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:06 pm
by Airbrush
Rockhopper wrote:Watch out you don't up in illegal possession then.
Went through all this with my sgc last year. wallhead

Re: FAC timescales for Thames Valley?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:09 pm
by kennyc
Airbrush wrote:
Rockhopper wrote:Watch out you don't up in illegal possession then.
When through all this with my sgc last year. wallhead
just email them Andy pointing out that you should have been issued either a renewal or a Sec7 by now (although I seem to recall talk about the rules allowing them an 8 week overrun period? not sure if this has come in yet?)
the automatic reply email from them will at least prove you tried to contact them in the unlikely event that anyone asks.

Re: FAC timescales for Thames Valley?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:15 pm
by Pete
I asked about lead times for my renewal (in Hants), and got an email reply stating that they would automatically issue a temp. permit in the event that they couldn't complete in time, and that I wouldn't need to store my rifles......................

I've printed it off and framed it. ;)

Pete

Re: FAC timescales for Thames Valley?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:17 pm
by Airbrush
kennyc wrote:
Airbrush wrote:
Rockhopper wrote:Watch out you don't up in illegal possession then.
When through all this with my sgc last year. wallhead
just email them Andy pointing out that you should have been issued either a renewal or a Sec7 by now (although I seem to recall talk about the rules allowing them an 8 week overrun period? not sure if this has come in yet?)
the automatic reply email from them will at least prove you tried to contact them in the unlikely event that anyone asks.
I'll give them a call this afternoon mate, had so much conflicting advice from TVP & BASC last year. troutslapping

Re: FAC timescales for Thames Valley?

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:43 pm
by shugie
The Policing and Crime Bill received Royal assent at the end of January this year, and includes section 131 as follows:-

131Limited extension of firearm certificates etc

(1)After section 28A of the Firearms Act 1968 (certificates: supplementary) insert—
“28BCertificates: limited extension

(1)This section applies where—

(a)an application is made for the renewal of a certificate on or before the day which falls 8 weeks before the day at the end of which the certificate is due to expire, but

(b)the chief officer of police does not determine whether or not to grant the application before the certificate is due to expire.

(2)The certificate continues in force by virtue of this subsection until whichever of the following events occurs first—

(a)the chief officer determines whether or not to grant the application;

(b)the extension period ends.

(3)In subsection (2), “the extension period” means the period of 8 weeks beginning with the day after the day at the end of which the certificate was due to expire.

(4)If the event mentioned in subsection (2)(a) occurs first, and the chief officer grants the application, any period for which the certificate continued in force under subsection (2) is to be treated for the purposes of section 28A(1) as part of the period for which the renewed certificate is in force.

(5)This section does not apply in relation to the renewal of a certificate granted or last renewed in Northern Ireland.”

I have some doubts about general serving officers being aware of this, so you might, if the circumstances apply to you, want to print the above (from http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/201 ... 31/enacted) out to keep with an expired certificate. I think the firearms licensing people will know about it.

Of course, as an extension period, theoretically you should be able to buy ammunition in the eight weeks as well.