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Afore going on patrol in downtown Nastyland, we used to be given a briefing on the Rules of Engagement by a Major from the Army Legal Service. After the usual explanation of the different rules applying in Open Warfare and Peacekeeping (the phase we were officially in, though the ganiwogs still considered it to be OW), he would conclude with the pertinent though wholly unofficial advice we knew as The Rule of 6 and 12:

"If in doubt as to whether you are permitted to defend yourselves, or the lives of those around you, remember that is better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6"

We have a big all black germanshepherd dog and cctv around our house. One day he started growling and showing his teeth and looked really fierce. There was nothing on the screen and we have a long drive. After a minute a man was walking towards the house and the dog was going crackers by now, I sent Margaret to the door with the dog and when she opened it, it was all she could do to restrain the dog.
As the man was hurrrying back up the drive he called over " have you got any scrap metal". The dog is normally very passive but he recognised evil.

ronboy wrote:I sent Margaret to the door with the dog

How very chivalrous of you, ooman...

Two teenage girls stabbed to death at a flat in West Yorkshire:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17335752

Mother and child killed at their home in North Wales:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ds-newsxml

So where is fartinatrance Cameron and his verbal dysentry about defending oneself after all of this............?

An elderly woman has been beaten severely in her bed, no apparent motive:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bi ... m-17989858

A man has been stabbed to death at his flat in Brighton:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-17997444

A woman has been stabbed to death at her house in Birmingham:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ma ... r-17989706

A man allegedly beat a man and woman to death at their homes in Middlesbrough and North Yorkshire, raping the woman:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-17936672

A man broke into a woman's home in Helensburgh and attempted to rape her after following her home, police intervened after being called by her son who happened to be home at the time and woken by the commotion:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-g ... t-16651171

A man sneaked into a woman's house in Livingstone, attacked her as she slept and raped her:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-e ... e-17449896

A man took a woman hostage in her Cambridge home for four days and repeatedly raped her:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-ca ... e-17746993

A man raped a woman at knifepoint at her holiday home in Suffolk:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-16954048

Good post,

..........and if I can find the article, "in the USA a 59 year old homeowner shot and killed a 14 year old home invader!"
A young woman shot and killed a serial rapist who had come back for seconds.

I know where I'd rather be.

Home invasions are on the up but copiousassgas Cameron and his mealy mouthed promises about defending ourselves will come to nothing.

Only when there is a good chance of being shot will the message get through to those vermin. Police are useless (no disrespect) against such matters, the only and best first responder is the victim.