6.5cm ban?

[Chapuis]

The NRA suggested that clubs should not respond to the Cullen enquiry that they would deal with it. Look where that got us.

[dromia]

You just need to look at the current state of British shooting to see the NRA's lack of efficacy in resisting attacks on gun ownership and shooting.

British shooting is dying on its feet and the NRA (and the the other shyster "national" bodies) are gleefully fulfilling the role of undertakers.

Bisley not effected, that means we will get the usual hot air to give the illusion of doing something national but as always the coffin nail will stay and the drip drip destruction of shooting will just continue erode.

As has been said, history shows there is absolutely no reason why any one should take the NRA's advice on anything.

I am sure that some individuals within the NRA are putting some time and energy into this but this will not change the outcome.

[1066]

Really need a "like" button on this forum.

[Martiniman]

You just need to look at the current state of British shooting to see the NRA's lack of efficacy in resisting attacks on gun ownership and shooting.

British shooting is dying on its feet and the NRA (and the the other shyster "national" bodies) are gleefully fulfilling the role of undertakers.

Bisley not effected, that means we will get the usual hot air to give the illusion of doing something national but as always the coffin nail will stay and the drip drip destruction of shooting will just continue erode.

As has been said, history shows there is absolutely no reason why any one should take the NRA's advice on anything.

I am sure that some individuals within the NRA are putting some time and energy into this but this will not change the outcome.

I think a better understanding of what the NRA can and can’t do (along with why) - in addition to what the BSSC can/can’t do would help clarify your obvious ire. I do feel many areas of communication on numerous shooting topics gets lost to everyone’s detriment and a unified strong voice is really aspirational. But I also accept the NRA is a rifle club and a charity in its own right which maybe limits its scope
of practice and ability to be political to the level you argue for.

[dromia]

Oh the old charitable status chestnut.

Whatever the reason for the nra's lack of effectiveness charitable status is a choice.

If that is the choice they make and it neuters their ability to be pro active in saving British shooting then they should refrain from the claim that they are Nationally supporting shooting and gun ownership, these are two sides of the same coin. No guns, nowhere to shoot them then shooting dies.

If the NRA were honest and said they are just another shooting club running their own competitions then perhaps the shooting community wouldn't hold them in contempt and disgust.

If they are so immobilised in their actions making them unable to do anything of value then why are they telling people not to contact the MoD?

Just some honesty from the NRA would help.

If they are purely an ineffective reactive supplicant organisation (just like most other shooting clubs) then so be it and just say so. It is the pretence that they can have any National impact that sets them up for a fall in the eyes of shooters when actually they are unable and unwilling to do anything.

No doubt charitable status helps Mr Mercer with his performance related remuneration.

It is like water companies remunerating for failure.

The NRA had charitable status when it told pistol clubs not to lobby and leave it to them. Now you are telling us they were never able to lobby and organise any effective action because of their charitable status.FFS!!!!!

The NRA hole just keeps getting bigger as they and their acolytes keep digging.

[Martiniman]

Not sure anything that they have done will be recognised by you so the conversation is really limited in going any further!!

[dromia]

Aye when the going gets hard with honesty then run away and don't tackle the issues raised.

Typical NRA gutlessness.

It is results that will convince me of their efficacy and the parlous state of British shooting certainly lies upon a paucity of results.

[Martiniman]

Well, I’m at work so time is snatched and you can be argued to be very set in your ways and opinions which is your right.

[Yamavira]

Recently visited Steve Smith Tube range with 6.5CM.
Wildcat Evo moderator on the rifle & decent ear defenders does not do much to quieten a shot as it goes down range. Fired 3 rounds, enough.

yamavira

[phaedra1106]

@Yamavira, it's not that bad, honestly! I've stot a bucket load of 6.5 and 308 there without moderators

In other news re-6.5CM

I was running a shoot at Otterburn yesterday, as we haven't had anything from them about all 6.5's being banned I checked with them.

They say that following the decision by someone at Catterick they had also imposed a ban on 6.5 in all it's verious forms.

He also said they were getting very little information on the Creedmoor ban from the MoD, most of it was coming from civilian shooters!.