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A couple of extras on my Vepr 12
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:05 am
by breacher
Went with an AR type stock combined with AK grenade launcher buttpad.
Hogue grip.
And improvised peepsight / ghost ring on the rail.
Re: A couple of extras on my Vepr 12
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:41 am
by Dangermouse
Would look good with a shorter barrel and muzzlembreak on.
Like the look of the stock and pistol grip but wonder how good the cheek positioning will be,
DM
Re: A couple of extras on my Vepr 12
Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:32 am
by breacher
Stock position is perfect for the ghost ring setup I have.
The grip transforms handling - much more adhesive in terms of hold. Softer rubber compound etc
Have considered chopping it down a little and adding muzzle brake. But, it functions perfectly as is and I have heard that shortening the barrel can reduce the amount of gas passing through the piston / speed of gas and adversely affect functioning. Not sure what to do.
To be honest, even fast double tapping is easy without the muzzle break.
Re: A couple of extras on my Vepr 12
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:18 pm
by meles meles
What's the difference betwixt the Vepr and Saiga 12 shotguns? Just the lack of wood ?
Re: A couple of extras on my Vepr 12
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:29 pm
by snayperskaya
Saiga12 based on AK receiver and built by Izhmash (now called Kalashnikov Concern) and Vepr12 is built by Molot and are based on a thicker (1.5mm rather than 1.0mm) RPK receiver.
Re: A couple of extras on my Vepr 12
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:30 pm
by meles meles
So, similar design, but beefier manufacture?
Re: A couple of extras on my Vepr 12
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:33 pm
by snayperskaya
Pretty much, I personally would take a Vepr over a Saiga.Its a shame we can't have the carbine length versions they have in the States.
Re: A couple of extras on my Vepr 12
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:34 pm
by meles meles
Any thoughts as to how it compares with the Bora 99?
Re: A couple of extras on my Vepr 12
Posted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:49 pm
by snayperskaya
I would take either a Vepr or a Saiga over a Bora!......it would be like comparing a 1.8 Mondeo to a Rs Cosworth.A Vepr or Saiga are built to last a lifetime (Kalashnikov heritage remember) whereas a Bora is built as a low price semi auto and doesn't feel anywhere near as solid and robust.This isn't a criticism of the Bora, just that I believe you get what you pay for and I personally would pay more for a Vepr or Saiga in the knowledge it would take more use/abuse and keep coming back for more.
Re: A couple of extras on my Vepr 12
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:06 pm
by breacher
I have handled both. The Bora is a lot lighter and feels very plasticky in comparison.
The Vepr has a last round bolt hold open - not sure the Saiga has. And a release button right next to the trigger so makes reloads that little bit faster.
The Vepr has a self regulating gas system which they say is better than the Saiga.
The Vepr has an ambi safety where the Saiga does not.
The Vepr has been adopted by quite a few NATO forces where the Saiga has not been adopted by any.
Vepr has a traditional "mag straight in" magwell where the Saiga has a "rock and lock" similar to L1A1 or AK etc
And I have quite a few spare mags.................................
