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Stop butt condition

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:26 pm
by shugie
I was at Short Siberia for 100 yds this morning (I'd thought it was actually Melville, so took my .22 and lever action instead of the K31) and was doing my marking stint on target 7. Every now and then sand and gravel was landing on me, and I worked out that when a shot went into the stop bank it was spraying sand and small stones, like pea shingle, for some distance. The hole in the bank was quite large.

At one point a stone hit me on the nose with enough force to just draw blood, and I was glad to be wearing glasses. At the end of that marking detail the chap I was with approached the shooters at the firing point for target one, and they seemed surprised as they were shooting with a 270 which a bit of research suggests should be within energy limits.

The matter was reported to the range office, but I was wondering if it would make sense to report a problem if the stop butt has a hole of clearly greater depth than usual in future.

Other than that, it was a great morning, the sun was shining, if with very little apparent warmth, and using the 22 at 100 yards was interesting too. I might try that again, I need a slightly better scope, but .22 ammunition is still much cheaper than full bore so I can save too. My Rossi was up to its usual tricks, despatching some rounds with ease, and just dimpling the primer on others, all factory Magtech which I believe is decent enough. Following previous comments on this matter, each misfired round was set aside without a second go. I'll have to sort this problem out somehow, and get a kinetic puller to get rid of the misfires - what is the procedure for dealing with empty cases still containing a live primer?

What did impress me was the accuracy of the Rossi at 100 yds with my firing without a rest of any sort.

Re: Stop butt condition

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 4:49 pm
by Meaty
Shugie,
I may be wrong and open to correction but I have been told never to use a kinetic hammer on a rim-fire case as there is a chance they can go off! I have pulled a few with pliers but even that makes me a bit twitchy-maybe best to just ask the R.O. how best to deal with them or leave them in a jar of thin oil.

Re: Stop butt condition

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:08 pm
by saddler
Most .22 rounds can be pulled apart by twisting the bullet at 90-degrees while holding onto the case.
Wimps may need to use pliers or a Leatherman to grip the bullet.

Kinetic hammer with rimfire? Accident waiting to happen! !

Re: Stop butt condition

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:36 pm
by kennyc
its his Rossi thats a .357 CF round not a rimfire, panic over move along now, nothing to see here

Re: Stop butt condition

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:42 pm
by shugie
kennyc wrote:its his Rossi thats a .357 CF round not a rimfire, panic over move along now, nothing to see here
'Tis true that, I'm not enough of a daftie to tinker with .22

Re: Stop butt condition

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 5:58 pm
by saddler
shugie wrote:
kennyc wrote:its his Rossi thats a .357 CF round not a rimfire, panic over move along now, nothing to see here
'Tis true that, I'm not enough of a daftie to tinker with .22
You could always deep fry some with your Mars Bars...

Re: Stop butt condition

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:54 pm
by IainWR
If you have misfires / damaged rounds / ammo found rusting on the point / etc, bring it to the range office, make an entry in the "ammunition for disposal" log, and the NRA will dispose of it for you.

Iain

Re: Stop butt condition

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:29 pm
by kennyc
I'll have to sort this problem out somehow, and get a kinetic puller to get rid of the misfires - what is the procedure for dealing with empty cases still containing a live primer?

just put them through your decapping die as normal, wear safety glass's and go slow, then reload and go back and try again :D if you are in need of help with this I am in Reading so just PM me ken

Re: Stop butt condition

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:32 pm
by shugie
kennyc wrote:I'll have to sort this problem out somehow, and get a kinetic puller to get rid of the misfires - what is the procedure for dealing with empty cases still containing a live primer?

just put them through your decapping die as normal, wear safety glass's and go slow, then reload and go back and try again :D if you are in need of help with this I am in Reading so just PM me ken
The flaw in this is my not owning a decapping die! Reloading kit is still a 'next year' project.

Re: Stop butt condition

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 9:55 pm
by kennyc
shugie wrote:
kennyc wrote:I'll have to sort this problem out somehow, and get a kinetic puller to get rid of the misfires - what is the procedure for dealing with empty cases still containing a live primer?

just put them through your decapping die as normal, wear safety glass's and go slow, then reload and go back and try again :D if you are in need of help with this I am in Reading so just PM me ken
The flaw in this is my not owning a decapping die! Reloading kit is still a 'next year' project.
then I refer you to the last part of my post tongueout