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Hi sorry if this is in the wrong place, ive been looking at all the different AR styled rim fires lately trying to decide which one to have, I finally decided on the H&K 416D .22LR the only thing it hasn't got what I wanted is the bolt release but I can live with that, now ive been on the Lantac website im back to square one not knowing what to get, I want one that accurate and its got to be a .22LR I need some advice please.

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S&W 15-22, you get over the fact that it's polymer pretty quickly.

techguy wrote:S&W 15-22, you get over the fact that it's polymer pretty quickly.

Sorry techgue but you don't there to light.

top wrote:Hi sorry if this is in the wrong place, ive been looking at all the different AR styled rim fires lately trying to decide which one to have, I finally decided on the H&K 416D .22LR the only thing it hasn't got what I wanted is the bolt release but I can live with that, now ive been on the Lantac website im back to square one not knowing what to get, I want one that accurate and its got to be a .22LR I need some advice please.

H&k 416 is a nightmare to clean

What he said

S&W M&P15-22, fantastic bit of kit, cheap(ish) excellent build quality, shoots anything you feed it, more accurate than I am! and handles very nicely!.

If you find it too light fill the thing up with sand/lead/old pizza etc., personally the weight isn't an issue, it handles very well, shoots where I point it and does everything I ask of it.

You will get as many responses as there are owners of rifles, also the AR type market is very partisan.

Best you can do is try and shoot as many makes as possible and settle on the one that suits you, all the guns will have there strengths and weakness's but you will need to find the one that suits you. One man's meat is another man's poison.

Rburro2 wrote:

techguy wrote:S&W 15-22, you get over the fact that it's polymer pretty quickly.

Sorry techgue but you don't there to light.

Argh! How can I even take your post seriously when you can't quote my name correctly, or even construct a coherent sentence?!

Back to the OP. What do you want to use it for? Might help in qualifying my suggestion.

I have a straight pull AR (and will be getting 2 more this year), just come back from shooting AR's in the USA. For minirifle, multi-gun and general plinking my 15-22 is perfect. I'd like a full weight AR for more realistic training and practice for my next USA trip and 3-gun matches, but to me, it's not worth spending 3 times the cost of my .22 for a heavier .22!

The HK416 has a really nice feel to it (I shot one a few weeks back) but it's not as easy to clean as an AR/15-22 and if you shoot .22 often, you'll need to clean it regularly to keep it running!

Light? My S&W, with a Bushnell red dot, an a full mag is bang on six pounds. That is only one pound lighter than the seven pounds stipulated by Jeff Cooper for a loaded and scoped .308 Scout Rifle...

According to Janes Recognition Guide, a real M4 weighs only 5lb 10oz. I also have a Ruger 10/22 project going on at the minute and already, with a couple of bits still to add, it's tipping the scales at 8lb 6oz the exact same weight of the SA80 I lugged all over South Armagh!

How heavy do you want your kit to be? Personally, I carried all I'd wanted to after I left the mob...

On the S&W, it's the only one that works the way an AR should, out of the box. Search for the threads here, especially the crap that people have gone to to get a working bolt catch and reliable mags.

And as for longevity due to the polymer construction, S&W recommend you change the recoil spring every 100 thousand rounds. See anyone complaining that Glock don't last....?