Bora99 at the NTSA
Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:10 pm
The last two days I have been shooting the Bora at the National Target Shotgun Association National Championships at Bisley.
This is only the second time out for the Bora and as such it is still being shot in and I did not wish to add to the other threads running. At the end of play today I figure it has probably had around 250 shells through it, still not many in the scheme of things.
Friday 01st was a Experimental 100 yard shoot on Short Siberia. 2 sighters, convertible, followed by 15 to count. We could shoot any position, any sights and any support. Most opted for prone to begin with but a couple moved to sitting for personal comfort reasons. The target on this occasion, and only this occasion, was a short range F Class target. Thankfully anywhere else on the board was scoring a 1, which allowed people to accumulate points. People were surprised at how little the slug dropped at that distance, many believing that it was only a foot or so. As a result people were getting in the black and I was able to score a 26. As it turns out knocked of second spot by only a 0.1 of a mark by the only person to hit the V Bull on the day. I happened to be marking that target and can say that the hole the slug made was not much smaller than the V Bull itself.
Next time out we will use a target with a larger scoring area and have plans to also try 200 yards and some of us are game for 300 yards!
Considering that I was using a set of £10 air soft Mag pull flip up sights that had only just been forced on to the rail, I was pleased.
Saturday and we were on Butt Zero for an early start.
The courses of fire for the day were:
Timed & Precision 30 Rounds of Slug,
Timed & Precision Lite 18 Rounds of Slug,
Multi Target 24 Rounds of Slug
Embassy Cup 24 Rounds of Slug
And a snooker fun shoot which had 12 targets using birdshot.
For those familiar with target shotgun events you may notice the T&P Lite event. Again another experimental shoot that everyone responded well to. Shot at 15 yards on 3 different targets it was a quick and fun shoot that we will do again but probably move back to 20 yards as the scores were all high.
For this competition I was using 1oz Lellier & Bellot Special Slug Sport at 67.5mm (£68.00 from range office)
I found the gun was feeding these well with only one fail to load. The cartridge just did not go into the chamber. I am finding that with this gun there is no point trying to clear the jam. You need to dump the mag and either load again or insert a fresh magazine. Trying to clear a jam just creates more mess as more shells are stripped from the magazine.
The magazine came in handy with the Embassy cup stage. At each distance you shoot 4 then re load with another 4 and change position. So standing to prone. Standing to Siting and then Standing to kneeling. This is done in a short time frame. It is common to see people get the last round in after the re load just as the targets turn. luckily for us this stage saw the only rain of the day, thankfully not enough to see anyone getting muddy from the contact with the ground. My magazines saw me finish each stage easily within time and it was nice to be the first to change position for once. Shame I did not use this time to aim!
With the last half hour of the day I hit the "Snooker" fun shoot. This was made up of a row of red plates with a row of colour plates behind. A red plate had to be shot first then a colour. If you missed a colour then you had to return to a red before engaging another colour. Simples?
I had two attempts before realising that my shot was just not knocking over that stubborn pink, which was leaning towards us. For the first time ever I changed chokes from my door breacher thing to a full choke. This required a bit more accuracy but at least the pink was going to fall. Or so was the plan, you have to hit it first!
This was the only stage of the day that I was getting feed issues. Not sure if it was the "High Pheasant" 2.mm 32 gram 67mm cartridge's or something else. This is one of the first guns and has only the one piston ring thing.
I have still not replaced the plastic feed ramp which I managed to damage before firing a shot, playing with the gun when I first got it. I guess 90% of owners probably do the same. Until that is replaced I will always be paranoid that it is the reason for any miss feed.
I have noticed, however I have not really played with this, that the gun does not like the magazine being loaded when the bolt is shut. This appears to cause miss feeds straight off.
On two occasions the last round bolt hold open failed to engage which was confusing. I will have a good look when I clean it a see if there is any damage to report.
Also on two occasions, once yesterday and once today, once with slug once with birdshot, I had light strikes. The first I was not convinced that a shell had actually been chambered the second definitely had. I will check the firing pin when I clean it but I suspect that this has more to do with how wet I was running the gun this time out.
The first time out I had been working on the mag well with a file to assist with the magazine changes. I had thoroughly cleaned the gun before taking it out and had forgotten to oil it again. It was seriously dry which led to some failures. This time out I went the other extreme and the thing was more likely to catch fire. Perhaps there was too much oil getting in the way? I will try half way next time and se how that works.
Sounds like there is trouble with this gun? Hey it is still being ran in and more importantly I am still getting use to it. It is not a tube gun or pump gun, it is a magazine gun and that brings it's own set of problems that I need to learn about and devise coping measures for. I strongly believe that on any given course of fire this gun has the ability to win first place if I do what is required.
Most importantly, this gun is fun to shoot. The trigger on this one is great, the recoil is not an issue and it looks great!
I am aware that the NTSA is not to everyone's taste, please don't post anti NTSA posts.
I had a great two days shooting with a great bunch of guys and girls. Everyone did everything that needed doing and the ranges all ran smoothly. Here is a link to the NTSA web site, come and have a go if you like the sounds of what you have read.
DM
http://targetshotgun.org.uk/
This is only the second time out for the Bora and as such it is still being shot in and I did not wish to add to the other threads running. At the end of play today I figure it has probably had around 250 shells through it, still not many in the scheme of things.
Friday 01st was a Experimental 100 yard shoot on Short Siberia. 2 sighters, convertible, followed by 15 to count. We could shoot any position, any sights and any support. Most opted for prone to begin with but a couple moved to sitting for personal comfort reasons. The target on this occasion, and only this occasion, was a short range F Class target. Thankfully anywhere else on the board was scoring a 1, which allowed people to accumulate points. People were surprised at how little the slug dropped at that distance, many believing that it was only a foot or so. As a result people were getting in the black and I was able to score a 26. As it turns out knocked of second spot by only a 0.1 of a mark by the only person to hit the V Bull on the day. I happened to be marking that target and can say that the hole the slug made was not much smaller than the V Bull itself.
Next time out we will use a target with a larger scoring area and have plans to also try 200 yards and some of us are game for 300 yards!
Considering that I was using a set of £10 air soft Mag pull flip up sights that had only just been forced on to the rail, I was pleased.
Saturday and we were on Butt Zero for an early start.
The courses of fire for the day were:
Timed & Precision 30 Rounds of Slug,
Timed & Precision Lite 18 Rounds of Slug,
Multi Target 24 Rounds of Slug
Embassy Cup 24 Rounds of Slug
And a snooker fun shoot which had 12 targets using birdshot.
For those familiar with target shotgun events you may notice the T&P Lite event. Again another experimental shoot that everyone responded well to. Shot at 15 yards on 3 different targets it was a quick and fun shoot that we will do again but probably move back to 20 yards as the scores were all high.
For this competition I was using 1oz Lellier & Bellot Special Slug Sport at 67.5mm (£68.00 from range office)
I found the gun was feeding these well with only one fail to load. The cartridge just did not go into the chamber. I am finding that with this gun there is no point trying to clear the jam. You need to dump the mag and either load again or insert a fresh magazine. Trying to clear a jam just creates more mess as more shells are stripped from the magazine.
The magazine came in handy with the Embassy cup stage. At each distance you shoot 4 then re load with another 4 and change position. So standing to prone. Standing to Siting and then Standing to kneeling. This is done in a short time frame. It is common to see people get the last round in after the re load just as the targets turn. luckily for us this stage saw the only rain of the day, thankfully not enough to see anyone getting muddy from the contact with the ground. My magazines saw me finish each stage easily within time and it was nice to be the first to change position for once. Shame I did not use this time to aim!
With the last half hour of the day I hit the "Snooker" fun shoot. This was made up of a row of red plates with a row of colour plates behind. A red plate had to be shot first then a colour. If you missed a colour then you had to return to a red before engaging another colour. Simples?
I had two attempts before realising that my shot was just not knocking over that stubborn pink, which was leaning towards us. For the first time ever I changed chokes from my door breacher thing to a full choke. This required a bit more accuracy but at least the pink was going to fall. Or so was the plan, you have to hit it first!
This was the only stage of the day that I was getting feed issues. Not sure if it was the "High Pheasant" 2.mm 32 gram 67mm cartridge's or something else. This is one of the first guns and has only the one piston ring thing.
I have still not replaced the plastic feed ramp which I managed to damage before firing a shot, playing with the gun when I first got it. I guess 90% of owners probably do the same. Until that is replaced I will always be paranoid that it is the reason for any miss feed.
I have noticed, however I have not really played with this, that the gun does not like the magazine being loaded when the bolt is shut. This appears to cause miss feeds straight off.
On two occasions the last round bolt hold open failed to engage which was confusing. I will have a good look when I clean it a see if there is any damage to report.
Also on two occasions, once yesterday and once today, once with slug once with birdshot, I had light strikes. The first I was not convinced that a shell had actually been chambered the second definitely had. I will check the firing pin when I clean it but I suspect that this has more to do with how wet I was running the gun this time out.
The first time out I had been working on the mag well with a file to assist with the magazine changes. I had thoroughly cleaned the gun before taking it out and had forgotten to oil it again. It was seriously dry which led to some failures. This time out I went the other extreme and the thing was more likely to catch fire. Perhaps there was too much oil getting in the way? I will try half way next time and se how that works.
Sounds like there is trouble with this gun? Hey it is still being ran in and more importantly I am still getting use to it. It is not a tube gun or pump gun, it is a magazine gun and that brings it's own set of problems that I need to learn about and devise coping measures for. I strongly believe that on any given course of fire this gun has the ability to win first place if I do what is required.
Most importantly, this gun is fun to shoot. The trigger on this one is great, the recoil is not an issue and it looks great!
I am aware that the NTSA is not to everyone's taste, please don't post anti NTSA posts.
I had a great two days shooting with a great bunch of guys and girls. Everyone did everything that needed doing and the ranges all ran smoothly. Here is a link to the NTSA web site, come and have a go if you like the sounds of what you have read.
DM
http://targetshotgun.org.uk/
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So my drill now for a FTF is 1/ Smack charging handle 2/Rack action 3/Remove mag and rack action then re-insert mag.
