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12g shotgun shells loaded with Black Powder and slug

Posted: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:10 pm
by bradaz11
I'll start by saying i do have slug permission on my ticket.

at my home range, I cannot use a shotgun unless it is loaded with black powder and firing a slug. a few guys use 410's there. but i want to use my 1897. now googling doesn't seem to turn up much at all, apart from just reloading standard nitro shells to blackpowder loaded shot shells. nothing really about slugs.

anyone have anything to offer? even simple like best way to crimp etc

Re: 12g shotgun shells loaded with Black Powder and slug

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:22 pm
by bradaz11
someone posted on this earlier, saying something about nitro??

the shotgun is fine and capable of firing nitro shotgun shells, its just i can't use them at my range, so i want to load some black powder slug rounds to use at the range, as i am allowed to use this sort....

hope thats clearer and/or what you meant

Re: 12g shotgun shells loaded with Black Powder and slug

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:41 pm
by tackb
Why can't you use nitro ?

Re: 12g shotgun shells loaded with Black Powder and slug

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:47 pm
by bradaz11
not a clue. just been told i can't

Re: 12g shotgun shells loaded with Black Powder and slug

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:47 pm
by safetyfirst
Is guess there is an energy limit like most ranges have and a nitro fuelled slug exceeds them?

Re: 12g shotgun shells loaded with Black Powder and slug

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:57 pm
by bradaz11
possibly yes, there is a energy limit, but i dont know what it is.... but if it was that, surely i could just download the shell and use that? But no, blanket no to nitro shells....

Re: 12g shotgun shells loaded with Black Powder and slug

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:55 am
by tackb
very weird ? I'd love to find out the reasoning because I don't think it would stand up to scrutiny !

anyway back to the original question , black powder substitutes like pyrodex load by volume like black powder , I'm pretty sure you could extrapolate some data or just use pyrodex ? you'd still get the lower performance and cloud of smoke to keep whoever came up with the range regs happy?

Re: 12g shotgun shells loaded with Black Powder and slug

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:56 am
by dromia
Black powder only, seems like a perfectly sensible rule to me.

Re: 12g shotgun shells loaded with Black Powder and slug

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:03 am
by tackb
not disputing that dromia , just interested in the thinking behind it?

Re: 12g shotgun shells loaded with Black Powder and slug

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:53 am
by Demonic69
Would it be possible to use black powder and exceed the energy limits? If not then the answer is obvious. You can tell someone shooting BP vs nitro. Rather than chrono every shot to make sure nothing slips through it makes more sense to set one, easily enforced rule. Use Nitro with a shotgun slug, get banned, Simples.