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Black powder training
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:19 pm
by $harp$hooter
Just a quick one to see if anyone knows of any BP training courses in the safe handling, transport and usage of BP?
Have been asked by the ELO of my force for proof of competence as I have applied for an A&K for BP. If anyone knows of any courses please let me know.
Re: Black powder training
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 1:27 pm
by dromia
Contact the MLAGB.
Can no one at your club help you?
Re: Black powder training
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:23 pm
by $harp$hooter
dromia wrote:Contact the MLAGB.
Can no one at your club help you?
I have dropped the MLAGB an email. I have had very helpful information from members at the club but it is nothing but advise. My ELO is looking into documented competency before granting A&K
Re: Black powder training
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:34 pm
by mag41uk
Is this some new requirement or made up local policy ?
Re: Black powder training
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 3:39 pm
by dromia
First I have heard of the need for documentation as well.
I would question the officer on what he is basing this requirement on.
Re: Black powder training
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:45 pm
by $harp$hooter
mag41uk wrote:Is this some new requirement or made up local policy ?
I believe is it local policy as I have been speaking to other COER applicants that this ELO has dealt with who are having the same issues.
Re: Black powder training
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 4:54 pm
by Gazoo
Don't do it, they will want a certificate before you can polish your weapon next.!!!!
DO NOT COMPLY
Re: Black powder training
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 5:01 pm
by Gazoo
Actually this was just the type of thing I was meaning the other day in the thread about handloading. Some where someone comes out with a very good training course for something and before you know it, plod is making it compulsory.
Durham have had a particularly bad record over the years of medium leval officers seeing something like this and wishing it into law (lore).
Fight them, demand to see where it is written in the home office guidance (it isn't) or in the firearms act, or the HSE regs.
Re: Black powder training
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:24 pm
by $harp$hooter
Gazoo wrote:Actually this was just the type of thing I was meaning the other day in the thread about handloading. Some where someone comes out with a very good training course for something and before you know it, plod is making it compulsory.
Durham have had a particularly bad record over the years of medium leval officers seeing something like this and wishing it into law (lore).
Fight them, demand to see where it is written in the home office guidance (it isn't) or in the firearms act, or the HSE regs.
http://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/site ... ection.pdf
This is the guidance published by West Yorks which is a neighbouring force to me. In chapter 2 it makes reference to competence under applicants.
This is what I believe is being used.
Re: Black powder training
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:24 pm
by Sim G
Get someone at the club to show you what the score is, conduct the activity under the watchful eye of the club captain for this discipline, then get the secretary to write a "letter of competence"...