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The news today at the Newcastle trial of the 19 year old Newcastle College dropout, stated that he easily obtained all the parts required to assemble a Glock plus ammunition, via the internet from foreign stockists with the ease SHOULD be sufficient proof to those in power that the handgun ban has had ZERO effect on criminal acess to weapons!

In this case the guilty party can have been little more than toddler aged when the ban came into force.

I'm almost as surprised that a native of that city managed to spell out what he was trying online when flailing his sausage like digits against the keyboard...and THEN even assembled the accumulation of parts without getting his tongue jammed in the moving parts.

There's dumb...and there's NewCassel dumb!

& TOP MARKS to UK Customs!

saddler wrote:The news today at the Newcastle trial of the 19 year old Newcastle College dropout, stated that he easily obtained all the parts required to assemble a Glock plus ammunition, via the internet from foreign stockists with the ease SHOULD be sufficient proof to those in power that the handgun ban has had ZERO effect on criminal acess to weapons!

In this case the guilty party can have been little more than toddler aged when the ban came into force.

I'm almost as surprised that a native of that city managed to spell out what he was trying online when flailing his sausage like digits against the keyboard...and THEN even assembled the accumulation of parts without getting his tongue jammed in the moving parts.

There's dumb...and there's NewCassel dumb!

& TOP MARKS to UK Customs!

I believe they didn't know until he bragged on facebook? Also he used the tors software that lets you use the deep web. The same stuff where people trafficking and the such is found. Ironically it was developed by the US state department to help dissidents in dictatorships communicate, then criminals got hold Saddler. Sounds about right too.

HMRC are like a BMW, living on an ill deserved reputation for reliability.

HMRC are just the Inland Revenue. When the Customs part was torn out it should have become HMRE (Her Majestys Revenue and Excise) Customs was dumped into H.M. Immigration and rarely gets the chance to do any Customs work as they are used to 'Cut the Queues' at Immigration. The fact is that it is impossible to ID every X rayed package at every airport / ferry port / postal depot. In fact it is impossible to X ray every package. You try and spot a slide or a frame 'Head on' in a package with lots of other 'bits and pieces' put in to disguise the shape.

So how long until this is used against legal gun owners?

Don't stress about the logic, they'll just spout nonsense about 'normalising' guns or some other rubbish.

Sixshot6 wrote: I believe they didn't know until he bragged on facebook? Also he used the tors software that lets you use the deep web. The same stuff where people trafficking and the such is found. Ironically it was developed by the US state department to help dissidents in dictatorships communicate, then criminals got hold Saddler. Sounds about right too.

He was caught because someone told the police about him, he was completely off their radar until then.

Outsider wrote:So how long until this is used against legal gun owners?

Don't stress about the logic, they'll just spout nonsense about 'normalising' guns or some other rubbish.

Yes i'm also expecting this to be used AGAINST us rather than the logical train of thought which would lead you to realise that the gun legislation in this country does sweet FA to stop any determined individual

Blackstuff wrote:

Sixshot6 wrote: I believe they didn't know until he bragged on facebook? Also he used the tors software that lets you use the deep web. The same stuff where people trafficking and the such is found. Ironically it was developed by the US state department to help dissidents in dictatorships communicate, then criminals got hold Saddler. Sounds about right too.

He was caught because someone told the police about him, he was completely off their radar until then.

Outsider wrote:So how long until this is used against legal gun owners?

Don't stress about the logic, they'll just spout nonsense about 'normalising' guns or some other rubbish.

Yes i'm also expecting this to be used AGAINST us rather than the logical train of thought which would lead you to realise that the gun legislation in this country does sweet FA to stop any determined individual

Very true, the points I stated about the Tors software and networks are true though, created to aid people under oppression and now used by criminals and scumbags. Its a sad state of affairs we have. I'm actually surprised more crims don't know about Tor at this stage also.

3D printing is the bigger issue surely? Within 5yrs anyone will be able to download the plans from the web and use home printer to make themselves a plastic, but functioning handgun. Really can't see what can be done prevent it either?

gun legislation in this country does sweet FA to stop any determined individual

It never did.

saddler wrote:The news today at the Newcastle trial of the 19 year old Newcastle College dropout, stated that he easily obtained all the parts required to assemble a Glock plus ammunition, via the internet from foreign stockists with the ease SHOULD be sufficient proof to those in power that the handgun ban has had ZERO effect on criminal acess to weapons!

In this case the guilty party can have been little more than toddler aged when the ban came into force.

I'm almost as surprised that a native of that city managed to spell out what he was trying online when flailing his sausage like digits against the keyboard...and THEN even assembled the accumulation of parts without getting his tongue jammed in the moving parts.

There's dumb...and there's NewCassel dumb!

& TOP MARKS to UK Customs!

The hand gun ban was brought in to.ensure no licenced handgun holder could use pistol again on a shooting spree, nothing to do with criminals, or armed robbery by them.....as a rule criminals only usually just kill specific targets or each other with sometimes an innocent party getting caught up in it, when was the last time a criminal obtained a gun and went on a mass shooting?