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We have purchased a nice, moderated, Bretton Gaucher .410 bolt action shotgun and rather like it. Excellent bit of Slovakian engineering: good barrel, fine moderator and a no-nonsense polymer stock that fits us well. On its first outing it accounted for two tree rats and then performed admirably against a couple of steel targets, producing a good, tight pattern at 25 mards. That has made us think. maybe we need a .410 double barrelled shotgun for poppin' at clays. Preferably side by side. We expect that it will have lesser range and a greater need for accuracy than our usual 'mascus barrelled, side by side hammergun, but perhaps that is a good thing ? Can you clever monkeys recommend such a thing ?

I have a ugatechea side by side 410 ejector and I love it !

Yildiz do such things for a reasonable price and if you want you can spend a lot on top make small bores ,it's surprising what you can achieve with the little small bores !

I bought an old .410 sxs poachers shotgun for Mrs Hrun as she didn't like the 12g recoil. Neither of us could hit a thing..

So we got her a Khan Arms under/over in .410. A little bit of fettling (a junior stock, fettled by the gunsmith to suit her female frame) and she hits them as often as I do.

fancy a marlin undelever for the clays .......

meles meles wrote:, Bretton Gaucher .410 bolt action shotgun and rather like it. Excellent bit of Slovakian engineering:

Bretton Gaucher are made in France are they not??

I'm interested too, always fancied a double barrel .410 but on the cheap as I don't really need one. I've searched for a while and they are either bolt action, single barrel and cheap. Or S/S U/O and not cheap at all, unless new and polymer. And still ~£100 more than I want to pay.

I had a yilditz side by side. 410......I loved it and became extremely proficient with it...nailing running rats on the farm to taking crows from 70 meters! (more luck than skill that with that kill me thinks) at clays I became somewhat the man to challenge at a round of clays with a 410.....I got very skint and sold it....always regretted it,bought a brand new one last January £480 and had the stock refinished by jws, the result now is that it's so bloody nice I'm frightened to take it out!!! That said it shoots the same but the old magic needs some practice! I've got a mossberg pump. 410 for the farm...I can recommend the yilditz elegance...

Lever357 wrote:

meles meles wrote:, Bretton Gaucher .410 bolt action shotgun and rather like it. Excellent bit of Slovakian engineering:

Bretton Gaucher are made in France are they not??

Oui.......

Non, mon petit teacake. Bretton Gaucher may well be a French company but their shotgun is properly made in Slovakia and engraved as such on the side. Same typescript as Brno use...

If you are looking for the quintessential French style and quirkiness in a shotgun then I can highly recommend the Darne. My Darne side by side is my go to 12 bore.