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Under and over clay gun.

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 7:20 pm
by Mickp
Hello, I'm awaiting my SGC and am looking for advice on a sporting shotgun.
I went to the National shooting show and shouldered a few guns all left handed guns.
The Browning 525 sporter was not the best fit.
Don't really like the Beretta Silver pigeon.
Two guns fitted and felt really good.
The Silma m80 sporting.
The Cogswell and Harrison sporter.
Does anyone use either of these shotguns as I would like to get your opinions on first hand usage.
Regards Mick.

Re: Under and over clay gun.

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:03 pm
by Kungfugerbil
I looked at the M80 when I was looking for a modestly priced new gun a little while back. Felt nice but didn't come to the shoulder well for me and the finishing and wood seemed a little rough. The action is tried and tested and they're all CNCd now so there isn't much in it. I ended up getting a Bettinsoli which was just that bit nicer all round and fit me perfectly. Same money too.

The default advice is go for the base Beretta, Browning or Miroku but if you buy at a good price you can't go wrong. Is a used gun on your radar or new only?

If you fancied a day out somewhere picturesque, Gilsan Sports in Richmond (N.Yorks) carries all of the Silmas alongside the usual Beretta/Browning/Miroku and have loads of stock. Nice people too, and Richmond is a lovely place.

Re: Under and over clay gun.

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 10:09 pm
by saddler
Look at the Miroku models.
Same factory makes the Browning O/U guns, plus a few other Browning & Winchesters.

Re: Under and over clay gun.

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:19 am
by ovenpaa
I am also a big fan of Miroku and have owned a 6000 Sporter since 1994 and they are available a reasonable prices on the used market. Nots sure who makes the Cogswell and Harrison these days.

Re: Under and over clay gun.

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:23 am
by Mickp
Kungfugerbil wrote:I looked at the M80 when I was looking for a modestly priced new gun a little while back. Felt nice but didn't come to the shoulder well for me and the finishing and wood seemed a little rough. The action is tried and tested and they're all CNCd now so there isn't much in it. I ended up getting a Bettinsoli which was just that bit nicer all round and fit me perfectly. Same money too.

The default advice is go for the base Beretta, Browning or Miroku but if you buy at a good price you can't go wrong. Is a used gun on your radar or new only?

If you fancied a day out somewhere picturesque, Gilsan Sports in Richmond (N.Yorks) carries all of the Silmas alongside the usual Beretta/Browning/Miroku and have loads of stock. Nice people too, and Richmond is a lovely place.
Yes go to Yorkshire now and again. Miroku don't seem to do many left handed guns.
I am open to second hand as well, being a left handed shooter makes it a little harder.

Re: Under and over clay gun.

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:26 am
by Mickp
Ovenpaa wrote:I am also a big fan of Miroku and have owned a 6000 Sporter since 1994 and they are available a reasonable prices on the used market. Nots sure who makes the Cogswell and Harrison these days.
The Cogswell and Harrison o/u are made in Italy. Of course they will still make you a hand built gun if you have around 50k spare.

Re: Under and over clay gun.

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:38 am
by ovenpaa
Hmm.. a true left hand makes things a bit more interesting, I would certainly say look at the used market.

Also, welcome to the forum :wave:

Re: Under and over clay gun.

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:59 am
by Mickp
Ovenpaa wrote:Hmm.. a true left hand makes things a bit more interesting, I would certainly say look at the used market.

Also, welcome to the forum :wave:

Thanks.

Re: Under and over clay gun.

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:57 am
by Kungfugerbil
Mickp wrote:
Kungfugerbil wrote:I am open to second hand as well, being a left handed shooter makes it a little harder.
Gilsan have plenty of left hookers including both Silmas. Browning always do particularly well in that respect as well.

The cast on modern Italian guns is so slight and the palm swells so modest that you may well get away with a right handed though, worth trying a few.

Re: Under and over clay gun.

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:22 pm
by Mickp
Kungfugerbil wrote:
Mickp wrote:
Kungfugerbil wrote:I am open to second hand as well, being a left handed shooter makes it a little harder.
Gilsan have plenty of left hookers including both Silmas. Browning always do particularly well in that respect as well.

The cast on modern Italian guns is so slight and the palm swells so modest that you may well get away with a right handed though, worth trying a few.
The Browning was a poor fit for me. Like you say I could get away with a straight stock.