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snayperskaya wrote:https://kalashnikov.com/press/news/news ... =ru_social

That's actually a 223 pump action rifle.

Sixshot6 wrote:

snayperskaya wrote:https://kalashnikov.com/press/news/news ... =ru_social

That's actually a 223 pump action rifle.

The photo is the pump action .223 version, but a shotgun version has also been produced.......and I think something got lost in translation somewhere :-), there is a video of the pump action .223 on the KalashnikovConcern FB page.

snayperskaya wrote:

Sixshot6 wrote:

snayperskaya wrote:https://kalashnikov.com/press/news/news ... =ru_social

That's actually a 223 pump action rifle.

The photo is the pump action .223 version, but a shotgun version has also been produced.......and I think something got lost in translation somewhere :-), there is a video of the pump action .223 on the KalashnikovConcern FB page.

I heard a rumour Molot was gonna make a 12 bore pump for California after the bullet button ban, but nothing else concrete, since KC is under sanction none of here or even in CA can get the stuff that makes sense for our markets .

Yuk!
Will stick with my 870's & the other proper pumps.
Ta.

Pump rifles are not an often talked about subject given the ban, but for me, a pump .223 rifle would have to be the Remington 7615P. ThevGreen Machine know a thing or two about pumpy things, despite wrecking some of their holdings.....! And the Troy PAR "AR", now that's an alternative!

Sim G wrote:Pump rifles are not an often talked about subject given the ban, but for me, a pump .223 rifle would have to be the Remington 7615P. ThevGreen Machine know a thing or two about pumpy things, despite wrecking some of their holdings.....! And the Troy PAR "AR", now that's an alternative!

Agree.
Went bunny shooting with one about 6 years ago.
Based on the 20-ga 870 frame & took standard AR15 magazines.
Trigger not brilliant, but could probably be tweaked.

Quite a fun rifle.

Sim G wrote:Pump rifles are not an often talked about subject given the ban, but for me, a pump .223 rifle would have to be the Remington 7615P. ThevGreen Machine know a thing or two about pumpy things, despite wrecking some of their holdings.....! And the Troy PAR "AR", now that's an alternative!

Thought exercise Sim, remember those bullpup rifles that pushed the bolt with a pistol grip? They were a post 1988 legal pump in a way, my idea is making a straight pull bullpup and then doing something similar. Is that workable while remaining a straight pull in the sense of the s&o rifles were?

Sixshot6 wrote:

Sim G wrote:Pump rifles are not an often talked about subject given the ban, but for me, a pump .223 rifle would have to be the Remington 7615P. ThevGreen Machine know a thing or two about pumpy things, despite wrecking some of their holdings.....! And the Troy PAR "AR", now that's an alternative!

Thought exercise Sim, remember those bullpup rifles that pushed the bolt with a pistol grip? They were a post 1988 legal pump in a way, my idea is making a straight pull bullpup and then doing something similar. Is that workable while remaining a straight pull in the sense of the s&o rifles were?

The Sommer and Ockenfuss Griffrepetierer???......there is one in my club shop that is chambered in 30.06