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Correct use of a semi-auto

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:21 pm
by Nelly2014
I am interested in other shooters views of 'rapid firing' of semi-auto rifles, pistols and shotguns within the (nanny-state) law of this country.
Some competitions require one to fire quickly at multiple targets, else why would they use a timer and score a section accordingly?
Therefore if you wish to be in with a chance of winning (or improving your score) it is in ones interest to learn how to load and fire quickly and safely.
Lets face it, there are quite a few clubs who's members object to 'black rifles' as they probably believe it endangers the sport due to their military appearance but as the general public are not admitted to clubs what is the problem?
However if MOTP saw and heard some of the most powerful long-range rifles like .50 cal and 338 in action they would poo their collective panties.
So what's wrong with rapid fire and how rapid is too rapid?
I post this seriously on a sensible forum as I prefer not to be lambasted by lackwits on certain other fora.

Re: Correct use of a semi-auto

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 5:52 pm
by RDC
Has someone had a whinge to spark this thread?

Re: Correct use of a semi-auto

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:07 pm
by Blue Lizard
Personally (and having come from being a pistol shooter back in the day), I really enjoy the fast-pace of 'action' shooting, such as semi-auto mini rifle comps. Rather than being a gung-ho runaround, like any sport it requires a fair degree of preparation, practice and clear-thinking to run a fluid course of fire involving shooting from different positions, managing magazine changes and care in engaging shoot/no-shoot targets. Safety is always paramount but a competent shooter is one who moves and shoots at the speed at which they remain in charge of the situation - if someone doesn't have the fundamentals of safe shooting down, they are going to be a liability whether running around or shooting sat at the bench next to you. The 'endangering' of our sport is often internalised, with some aspects of the old guard having a curmudgeonly intolerance to those practices which promote any bit of excitement or see enjoyment in shooting (or at least anything more than the slow fire of museum bang sticks) as a questionable thing.

The key aspect for me is the fun and enjoyment of doing such, with a group of like-minded folk. I don't play golf, but I can imagine a corresponding view being that if the end result is to hit a ball into a hole, why can't all golfers be satisfied with doing it on a putting green rather than needing to pitch balls at high speeds over long distances… ;) :run:

That being said, I'm a pretty well-rounded sort who also equally enjoys laying in a field lobbing rounds out at 600m too! Horses for courses, all brothers and sisters together etc...

Re: Correct use of a semi-auto

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:30 pm
by Hrun
When I got made redundant a few years ago (before I got my FAC and my own) I visited the club the same day..

A member loaded a 50 round mag and told me to empty it as fast as possible.. I felt much better after!

Just enjoy shooting however you wish is my view.

Re: Correct use of a semi-auto

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:41 pm
by ukrifleman
What really p****s me off is when `Rambo` turns up at the range with an `almost` semi-auto centre fire `black rifle` fitted with a muzzle brake and proceeds to put 20 or 30 rounds down range at the same piece of paper in short order.

Nothing worse than repeated muzzle blasts next to you, when you are trying to enjoy the range day and shoot a group.
ukrifleman

Re: Correct use of a semi-auto

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:57 pm
by Nelly2014
RDC wrote:Has someone had a whinge to spark this thread?
I have personally encountered negative attitudes towards black semi-autos and rate of fire at a number of clubs past and present but the most recent has prompted me to raise the subject.
Any reason it should not be discussed?

Re: Correct use of a semi-auto

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:01 pm
by ordnance
So what's wrong with rapid fire and how rapid is too rapid?
Nothing in the right situation.

Re: Correct use of a semi-auto

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:06 pm
by Hrun
Nelly2014 wrote:
RDC wrote:Has someone had a whinge to spark this thread?
I have personally encountered negative attitudes towards black semi-autos and rate of fire at a number of clubs past and present but the most recent has prompted me to raise the subject.
Any reason it should not be discussed?
Ask to see the club/range rule that limits rate of fire..

Personally I would avoid rapid fire if I knew someone else on the range was shooting match cards, but that simply means socialising until the range was free (we have 4 stations)

Re: Correct use of a semi-auto

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:10 pm
by Nelly2014
Hrun wrote:
Nelly2014 wrote:
RDC wrote:Has someone had a whinge to spark this thread?
I have personally encountered negative attitudes towards black semi-autos and rate of fire at a number of clubs past and present but the most recent has prompted me to raise the subject.
Any reason it should not be discussed?
Ask to see the club/range rule that limits rate of fire..

Personally I would avoid rapid fire if I knew someone else on the range was shooting match cards, but that simply means socialising until the range was free (we have 4 stations)
Good points. At one club it cannot be an issue as each station is separated from the other but they still moan.

Re: Correct use of a semi-auto

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:17 pm
by Hrun
I have personally encountered negative attitudes towards black semi-autos and rate of fire at a number of clubs past and present but the most recent has prompted me to raise the subject.
Any reason it should not be discussed?[/quote]

Ask to see the club/range rule that limits rate of fire..

Personally I would avoid rapid fire if I knew someone else on the range was shooting match cards, but that simply means socialising until the range was free (we have 4 stations)[/quote]

Good points. At one club it cannot be an issue as each station is separated from the other but they still moan.[/quote]

Ours are separated, but I understand it could be an unwelcome distraction, so act accordingly.

At the end of the day I support shooting however you wish, and the last thing we need is bad feeling within the club.

Also, our club rules mean that shooting competition cards trumps plinking, and rapid fire unless during a competition would class as plinking..