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Hello, I was looking to pick up a new toy as I have had my current rifle for almost 3 years now and have multiple free slots on my FAC.

I was looking to get a Kriss Defiance or one of the Lantac rifles and come across the HAMMERLI TAC R1 with seems like a decent rifle for the price and just want something to tide me over until I cant get my hands on one of the aforementioned rifles.

The thing is I can barely find any information about the rifle and it has been out for quite some time, has anyone had any experience with these?

All I know and have found out so far is that they are manufactured by Walther/Umerex which I have no problem with.

I think there is a review of it in one of the shooting magazines (the one which comes with gunmart in tesco) this month.

I've seen them advertised but always thought for another £50 you could have the well known M&P 15-22.

J4mes wrote:I've seen them advertised but always thought for another £50 you could have the well known M&P 15-22.

Not a fan of the 15-22, do not like the aesthetics or the weight since its polymer.

strangesam wrote:I think there is a review of it in one of the shooting magazines (the one which comes with gunmart in tesco) this month.

I have seen something on their website https://www.gunmart.net/shooting-advice ... 22-rimfire but what they are saying and what John Rothery say on their youtube vid give conflicting information.

It appears to be an HK416 in slightly different clothing - the exploded diagram available on the Rothery website confirms this.

Some folks liked them. I have a Walther MP5 - very similar mechanism, different clothes - and it has been faultless in thousands upon thousands of rounds. Literally, faultless.

Vive la difference I say. Ultimately they are all blowback rimfires that will do what you want them to.

Kungfugerbil wrote:It appears to be an HK416 in slightly different clothing - the exploded diagram available on the Rothery website confirms this.

I spoke with the retailer I was going to purchase it from and he did say internally it is the same as the HK416, I guess he is a more reliable source of information than J.R.

Would I be correct in my assumption that the HK416 has a fully functional bolt hold open which operates even when you remove the mag?

No, it doesn’t.

Should have added, it’s the magazine follower that traps the bolt open. Take the mag out, bolt slams shut.

Sim G wrote:No, it doesn’t.

Should have added, it’s the magazine follower that traps the bolt open. Take the mag out, bolt slams shut.

Thanks for that information, I think I will give it a miss knowing that.

Are there any other cheap AR15 styled rifles barring the 15-22 that will hold the bolt open upon removal of the mag?

sig 522 i think