Test, Track and Trace.
Moderator: dromia
- dromia
- Site Admin
- Posts: 20186
- Joined: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:57 am
- Home club or Range: The Highlands of Scotland. Cycling Proficiency 1964. Felton & District rifle club. Teesdale Pistol and Rifle club.
- Location: Sutherland and Co Durham
- Contact:
Test, Track and Trace.
Who will download and use the government's ap if it is successful and becomes available?
Come on Bambi get some
Imperial Good Metric Bad
Analogue Good Digital Bad
Fecking stones
Real farmers don't need subsidies
Cow's farts matter!
For fine firearms and requisites visit
http://www.pukkabundhooks.com/
Re: Test, Track and Trace.
Yes I will, further I will support a UK produced app over anything global or European or anything else.
- Les
- Posts: 4561
- Joined: Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:19 pm
- Home club or Range: WRPC
- Location: Runcorn, via Africa and parts unknown.
- Contact:
Re: Test, Track and Trace.
One of the governments talking heads was on the BBC news this morning trying to exlain how this would all work.
Unfortunately, the more he said, the deeper he dug. Would I consider using it? No.
Unfortunately, the more he said, the deeper he dug. Would I consider using it? No.
Re: Test, Track and Trace.
You can always remove the app, plus you get to see if anyone you know has tested positive. If it allows an effective track and test to be put in place that saves lives I am all for it. Also, it is probably going to get better results than a tin foil hat.
Re: Test, Track and Trace.
Ovenpaa wrote:You can always remove the app, plus you get to see if anyone you know has tested positive. If it allows an effective track and test to be put in place that saves lives I am all for it. Also, it is probably going to get better results than a tin foil hat.
Very well said indeed
Re: Test, Track and Trace.
I live in a rural location and haven't been within 2m of anyone apart from my wife since the 23rd of March.
I'm pretty sure I'm no use for what the government, no sorry "the NHS" is trying to achieve.
I'm pretty sure I'm no use for what the government, no sorry "the NHS" is trying to achieve.
- kennyc
- Posts: 2340
- Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:21 pm
- Home club or Range: hunters NRPC
- Location: Reading West Berks
- Contact:
Re: Test, Track and Trace.
https://www.matrixlaw.co.uk/news/legal- ... published/Ovenpaa wrote:Yes I will, further I will support a UK produced app over anything global or European or anything else.
Re: Test, Track and Trace.
So the UK app, probably breaks privacy legislation, can be easily* de-anonymised, the data is owned by cumming's cronies. And to top it all it probably won't actually work, as neither Apple or Google will allow background access to the bluetooth functionality/location access as the lack of privacy is too intrusive. This means it will only work when in the foreground of an unlocked phone, and it requires everyone surrounding you to have it in the foreground too. Also meaning it will knacker your battery.
There are videos of the Austrialian version (similar to UK on) failing to find phones that are side by side because the app is not in the foregound.
The Apple/Google version, has the following advantages, the data is better anonymised. It works by generating a random number weekly, which is recorded locally by any other phones which you come close too. If you are diagnosed, you tell the app, which then sends your number to a website. Your app then checks this website regularly, if it finds a number on the website which it has sensed and recorded it notifies you of the contact.
I won't bother installing the UK app, both because of privacy concerns and because the thing won't work without the approval of Apple/Google.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/0 ... virus_app/
There are videos of the Austrialian version (similar to UK on) failing to find phones that are side by side because the app is not in the foregound.
The Apple/Google version, has the following advantages, the data is better anonymised. It works by generating a random number weekly, which is recorded locally by any other phones which you come close too. If you are diagnosed, you tell the app, which then sends your number to a website. Your app then checks this website regularly, if it finds a number on the website which it has sensed and recorded it notifies you of the contact.
I won't bother installing the UK app, both because of privacy concerns and because the thing won't work without the approval of Apple/Google.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/0 ... virus_app/
- snayperskaya
- Posts: 7234
- Joined: Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:43 pm
- Home club or Range: West Bank of the Volga.....
- Location: West of The Urals
- Contact:
Re: Test, Track and Trace.
I'll stick my neck out and say that if the government really wanted to track and monitor your whereabouts and movements by your mobile for nefarious "Big Brother" type reasons they could do it regardless of whether this app is installed or not
"The only real power comes out of a long rifle." - Joseph Stalin
Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.....give a man a bank and he can rob the world!.
More than a vested interest in 7.62x54r!
Give a man a gun and he can rob a bank.....give a man a bank and he can rob the world!.
More than a vested interest in 7.62x54r!
- kennyc
- Posts: 2340
- Joined: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:21 pm
- Home club or Range: hunters NRPC
- Location: Reading West Berks
- Contact:
Re: Test, Track and Trace.
quite possibly, but is this app workable ? "its UK made" is a pretty poor substitute for actually having something that works, the NHS and UK Gov don't have a shining record with IT nor for the "unintended consequences" of legislation they have rushed through (this is non party political, they have all been guilty of it over the years )snayperskaya wrote:I'll stick my neck out and say that if the government really wanted to track and monitor your whereabouts and movements by your mobile for nefarious "Big Brother" type reasons they could do it regardless of whether this app is installed or not
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests