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I was watching this the other day, and I am sure that he is a very knowledgeable and well respected teacher/shooter, and I too had much respect for him, right up until 6:40,

or is it just me?

I know that he knows its not loaded, but really?

It is the ONLY correct way to check for gun fit - it is how you are "Taught" to check for gun fit on the CPSA instructors course (and the BASC one) - by looking directly down the barrels at the shooters head/eye position you can see how the gun fits and if you need a riser etc

Mike

This is what I got when I first borrowed a shotgun in this country and when I have taken other people shooting the instructor always does the same. All guns are loaded until you personally prove them empty. That's the key to that particular rule. If we really acted as if all guns were loaded all of the time we'd have a hard time fitting choke tubes, suppressors and other muzzle devices, not to mention disassembling guns that require the trigger to be pulled before they can be taken apart.

I do remember my early days with clays and the first things checked were eye dominance followed by sight picture, both proved by pointing the gun at the person I was with, I knew it was unloaded, as did he (Peter something, ex GB team) it sill felt very wrong...

Similar practice goes on in some WW1 Musketry instruction manuals too

YES - I agree that it looks wrong - but some things in life do...

Fair enough then, just seemed very wrong.

I think had I been that instructor, I would have said. ''I am going to ask you to point the gun at me so that I can check the fit etc.Now whilst we have already 'proved' the gun, before we proceed further we will 'Prove' the gun again, so that we are both happy that the gun is safe... not loaded.'' I was pleased to see that the instructor pointed out the correct procedure for closing the gun on live cartridges. 'wood to metal' Next time you are at a clay shoot just watch how many people ignore this rule. Generally speaking I think the instructor didn't do a bad job giving a first lesson to a couple of novices.

Jenks

Follow up with the second video ...



I have a concern with the use of 12G and 20G ... he is concentrating on the two shooters, their aim and safety, yet he does not mention the 20 in a 12 problem or even mention checking the cartridge is correct ...

Polchraine wrote: I have a concern with the use of 12G and 20G ... he is concentrating on the two shooters, their aim and safety, yet he does not mention the 20 in a 12 problem or even mention checking the cartridge is correct ...

very good point, easy mistake with the two shooting together.