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Use of sound moderators for target shooting....

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:49 pm
by Samul2692
Ok so i'm probably opening a can of worms here but i was wondering, what are the benefits if any of a suppressor/moderator for target shooting and whats all the fuss about with getting a slot for one if you're solely a target shooter?

Thanks in advance guys.

Re: Use of sound moderators for target shooting....

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:00 pm
by JonC
Along with the obvious reduction in noise (which is welcome) you also get less felt recoil, which is extremely handy.

Re: Use of sound moderators for target shooting....o

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:05 pm
by Mike357
I have read that some forces are refusing to allow mods for target shooting now!

Re: Use of sound moderators for target shooting....

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:08 pm
by DaveT
I Luv 'em for the reasons already stated.... just seems to make everything more shootable.

Theories abound that it dampens down barrel harmonics and improves grouping.... not sure on the science but I agree.

Downside is that your crown will carbon-up heavily ... its tough to get off.

Point of impact will also most probably change so record your new 'mod-on' zero settings at each range.

As for the law on mods... its silly!

Re: Use of sound moderators for target shooting....

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:29 pm
by Gun Pimp
Samul,

Benefits? Reduction in noise and re-coil. Noise reduction may not be relevant if you are shooting close to other un-moderated rifles.

Disadvantages - extra weight, cost, cost of fitting/re-proofing, could spoil accuracy, heat mirage could spoil sight-picture, may not be allowed in some target shooting disciplines, point of aim will change.

Vince

Re: Use of sound moderators for target shooting....

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 7:55 pm
by Samul2692
DaveT wrote:I Luv 'em for the reasons already stated.... just seems to make everything more shootable.

As for the law on mods... its silly!
I've not been shooting long but the few rifles i've shot suppressed just felt smoother so i can see the point about making everything more shootable even rimfire calibers and with regard to the law I hear alot about justifying the need for it but surely making the gun more shootable (less recoil for example) isn't going to be enough especially on rimfire calibers so how how are people justifying their need?

As for the barrel harmonics idea i heard that today myself from a dealer, and no he wasnt trying to sell me anything :lol: he suggested that if you buy a decent mod like an ASE ultra that it "helps" with barrel harmonics (don't ask me how) and improves grouping even with supersonic rounds. That being said and even if this is true, could increased accuracy be "justification".

Again thanks for the input guys and gals i need it :G just got confused with the lack of information out there on the web as with all things shooting related in the UK

Re: Use of sound moderators for target shooting....

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:10 pm
by JonC
Being anti social I opted for a muzzle brake :0037:

Re: Use of sound moderators for target shooting....

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:24 pm
by meles meles
A well designed and properly fitted moderator will improve the accuracy of your rifle. There are several reason for this, not least the reduction in upsetting. However, I would venture to suggest that none of the moderators currently on the market perform anywhere near as efficiently as they could be made to do.

*Taps snout knowingly*


With regards to being allowed to possess / use a moderator, quote the EC Directive on Noise in the Workplace to Mr Plod and he'll let you have one. It's the upside of the Al Qatada effect....

Re: Use of sound moderators for target shooting....

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:30 pm
by DaveT
Just to clarify the JUSTIFICATION issue ... I have always quoted 'Hearing Protection' and never had any push-back from Glos police... after all we are not talking about a weapon here for Gods sake!

Re: Use of sound moderators for target shooting....

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:42 pm
by kennyc
DaveT wrote:Just to clarify the JUSTIFICATION issue ... I have always quoted 'Hearing Protection' and never had any push-back from Glos police... after all we are not talking about a weapon here for Gods sake!
you obviously have never dropped one on your toe! :P :P