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Scope question
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:52 pm
by Buzz
I've done a search but can't really find what I'm after, I have seen some scopes I like but was unsure what type would be best.
The scopes come in 250 MOA and 1 Mil Rad and wondered which most people use? scope would be mainly used for target shooting but also some hunting too.
Scopes are Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x50 and Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x56
As I have no idea what type of measurement is best / prefered I'll leave it to you guys
Cheers Buzz.
Re: Scope question
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:12 pm
by 20series
I think most people i know have moa adjustments, its a lot easier than transposing
between the two
Re: Scope question
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 9:24 pm
by Buzz
Cheers, thought that might be the case.
Will keep having a look, hopefully there will be some good deals at the Newark show
Re: Scope question
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:16 pm
by Mike357
Spuds has a good video on his site about MOA, worth a watch. Search YouTube for Spud1967.
Re: Scope question
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:29 pm
by ovenpaa
Just to be different... I much prefer Milrad plus it is the tue European system and accordingly very popular on the metric mainland.
For me it is easier to think in Milrad, moving targets are easier to lead and windage/elevation just seem logical, once you have mastered it you are going to be onto a winner and if you know Milrad then MOA comes very easily. Downside is 95% of the shooters around you will have no idea how to convert between the two so when you are told you need to give the target 4 minutes of wind you need to do the math on the fly. However it is very easy as 1 Milrad is around three and a third MOA (3.44 is closer) So you need to dial in 1.3 Milrad or 13 clicks if it is a 1cm/klick 'scope.
Arghh...I know how this sounds but it is not that bad really, go on, give it a try, dare to be different :goodjob:
Re: Scope question
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:41 am
by EagerNoSkill
The dark art of wind reading and scope systems await
Turretts that work in different directions and values to
:G
:shock: :roll:
Re: Scope question
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:46 am
by dromia
ovenpaa wrote:Just to be different... I much prefer Milrad plus it is the tue European system and accordingly very popular on the metric mainland.
For me it is easier to think in Milrad, moving targets are easier to lead and windage/elevation just seem logical, once you have mastered it you are going to be onto a winner and if you know Milrad then MOA comes very easily. Downside is 95% of the shooters around you will have no idea how to convert between the two so when you are told you need to give the target 4 minutes of wind you need to do the math on the fly. However it is very easy as 1 Milrad is around three and a third MOA (3.44 is closer) So you need to dial in 1.3 Milrad or 13 clicks if it is a 1cm/klick 'scope.
Arghh...I know how this sounds but it is not that bad really, go on, give it a try, dare to be different :goodjob:
I've tried to get the hang of Milrads for years with out success, like most things metric I need to convert it to proper money in my head for it to have any meaning and that just makes it harder and unweildy. If I knew nothing other than milrads then I'm sure it would be different.
MOA good!
Milrad bad!
:55: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Re: Scope question
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:06 am
by Tower75
I'd love to be able to understand milrads, I've tried to "get it" too for ages, but I can't. Which is odd, I'm not that the bad at metric, I was taught metric at school, but I had to "teach" myself imperial when I started shooting.
Everyone I ask to explain milrads to me does it in imperial :shock: :? "1 MoA is 1" at 10-," - "Yes, I know that, but what about metric? Lets pretend Imperial doesn't exist, what is a milrad then?"
Blank stares
:lol:
Buzz, is there anyway you can trial a few scopes first? Borrow a club member's or a friend's? You can then see how adjusting a "MoA" and a "MD" suite you and which one you prefer
Re: Scope question
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:21 am
by dromia
Tower.75 wrote: Lets pretend Imperial doesn't exist,
Good grief! you can't do that the sky would fall in on us.
:shock:
Re: Scope question
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 9:34 am
by DaveT
EagerNoSkill wrote:The dark art of wind reading and scope systems await
Turretts that work in different directions and values to
:G
:shock: :roll:
Yup...... due to crap planning (and buying when the price is right!) I have ended up with about all the possible combinations of MOA & Milrad and turret elevation directions that are available! Having said that I agree with Ovenpaa ..... its not hard to convert once you get into it.
Re the original Post... take a look at Sightrons as well .... they are really good ....... most of my scopes are Schmidts but I have just bought a Sightron and don't anticipate being disappointed.